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time, space, transmat
hahaaaaa hold tight for a big announcement soon.
edit: (not new stuff, but still exciting anyway)
Re early dubstep/funky crossover, I guess the crossover point is with stuff like Lil Silva's "Tribal Land", Pearson Sound's "Wad" etc. Yeah there's def. a strong similarity between that and Hatcha's tribal stuff in particular.
I can see the mixture of the two sounds working very well, particularly if you're deliberately going for a frisky dubstep vibe - those tracks above are the kind that would (and in some cases have already) sound spectacular in, say, a Ramadanman set (or Ben's sets). Arguably "Wad" is dubstep as much as funky given the producer's background, though I think its strong housey feel makes it feel a little bit more like a funky track overall.
"Wad" forms an interesting test case for me. In actual funky sets I sometimes sense an imaginary, tenuous line back to house that needs to be preserved somewhat for things to work - stuff like Mak 10's "Sequencer" and even Lighter's "Skanker" push that to breaking point, at the risk of a certain reduction of vibe (though I think "Skanker" scrapes through on account of its tremendous energy). Even before I knew what it was and who it was by, "Wad" formed something of a test case for me - like it was somehow on the right side of some line and "Sequencer" was on the wrong side.
The point of which is not to advocate some form of purism (of the funky variety or otherwise) but rather to think of it in terms of a kind of gentle pressure - how to keep pushing that line so that it extends (and distends) further and further without actually breaking it or tripping over it.
The pushing-of-the-line stuff is almost always the best stuff of all - which is why "Tribal Land" and "Wad" and Scotty D's "Dream" are all in my top 10 funky tunes of 2009.
There are early dubstep tracks that I reckon would actually work fabulously well at maintaining/extending that vibe - "Conga Therapy" or DJ Abstract's "Touch" for example. I'm sure there are several other examples. Obv. quite a few Mala tunes.
In the same vein, I almost feel like "Shank Riddim" is already an honorary funky track. Kinda proven by how openly and proudly Ill Blu's "Time To Get Nasty" rips from it....
From a DJ set perspective what works for me is a kind of secret eclecticism - like, "lets drop "Left Leg Out" now and see whether anyone even notices that we've swtiched genres", rather than obvious sideways swerves. In the same way that to all intents and purposes "Doom's Night" was a garage track.
Perhaps hower the main reason that this particular crossover isn't being explored much is that the DJs by and large don't have those early dubstep records... Blackdown get on it.
I can see the mixture of the two sounds working very well, particularly if you're deliberately going for a frisky dubstep vibe - those tracks above are the kind that would (and in some cases have already) sound spectacular in, say, a Ramadanman set (or Ben's sets). Arguably "Wad" is dubstep as much as funky given the producer's background, though I think its strong housey feel makes it feel a little bit more like a funky track overall.
"Wad" forms an interesting test case for me. In actual funky sets I sometimes sense an imaginary, tenuous line back to house that needs to be preserved somewhat for things to work - stuff like Mak 10's "Sequencer" and even Lighter's "Skanker" push that to breaking point, at the risk of a certain reduction of vibe (though I think "Skanker" scrapes through on account of its tremendous energy). Even before I knew what it was and who it was by, "Wad" formed something of a test case for me - like it was somehow on the right side of some line and "Sequencer" was on the wrong side.
The point of which is not to advocate some form of purism (of the funky variety or otherwise) but rather to think of it in terms of a kind of gentle pressure - how to keep pushing that line so that it extends (and distends) further and further without actually breaking it or tripping over it.
The pushing-of-the-line stuff is almost always the best stuff of all - which is why "Tribal Land" and "Wad" and Scotty D's "Dream" are all in my top 10 funky tunes of 2009.
There are early dubstep tracks that I reckon would actually work fabulously well at maintaining/extending that vibe - "Conga Therapy" or DJ Abstract's "Touch" for example. I'm sure there are several other examples. Obv. quite a few Mala tunes.
In the same vein, I almost feel like "Shank Riddim" is already an honorary funky track. Kinda proven by how openly and proudly Ill Blu's "Time To Get Nasty" rips from it....
From a DJ set perspective what works for me is a kind of secret eclecticism - like, "lets drop "Left Leg Out" now and see whether anyone even notices that we've swtiched genres", rather than obvious sideways swerves. In the same way that to all intents and purposes "Doom's Night" was a garage track.
Perhaps hower the main reason that this particular crossover isn't being explored much is that the DJs by and large don't have those early dubstep records... Blackdown get on it.
we (dusk and i), have certainly learned to live with them.
mixing is subtly different (imho): they're locktite when the mix is in, but it's far easier to correct vinyl if it's going out. it's much easier to go back to the beginning with CDJs, whereas finding your start point on vinyl takes more time...
mixing is subtly different (imho): they're locktite when the mix is in, but it's far easier to correct vinyl if it's going out. it's much easier to go back to the beginning with CDJs, whereas finding your start point on vinyl takes more time...
+ analogue and digital have a different overall sound
slackk
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Royal P anyone?
http://www.myspace.com/royalproducer
Really liking this stuff. Bought that tune off ukfunky, now it's time to go and try blag some i think.
http://www.myspace.com/royalproducer
Really liking this stuff. Bought that tune off ukfunky, now it's time to go and try blag some i think.
oh wow, miss dynamite has done a vocal for 'crackish' (you'll have heard the instrumental on footloose)
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/blog/item/ms-dynamite-geeneus-crackish
HEAVY
http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/blog/item/ms-dynamite-geeneus-crackish
HEAVY
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it's being done on radio, lots of people around now were buying records back then, it wasn't such a long time ago. you got old skull disco, dmz, and big apple on this one from last week http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=9531
the reason why i don't play a massive amount of older dubstep is that when i get up to that tempo i want to play new stuff, especially when you only have an hour or so to play.
with faustus' original qustion, i guess the reason they're not being mixed directly next to each other, as opposed to in different sections in sets, is that the tempo doesn't fit. the example given of siegaliser into who r those guys works because siegaliser is mad fast, a good 5 or 6 bpm faster than most funky at least. you can't zig zag if you're talking about a gap of 10-15bpm between the start and the end of a set, it's not possible. some older stuff is great as a tempo bridge though. kode 9 grime 2 tracks are 135-6bpm or something
Tim F said:
Wad will be out late July on Hessle
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"Between Us" is astonishing, yes, another top ten of the year for me. That and the OB remix of Addictive's "Domino Effect" and the mysterious remix of J-Will's "Deja Vu" are really strong endorsements of a quite distinct direction for funky, sorta millennial R&B meets polychromatic early house. I described "Between Us" on ILM as like Aaliyah's "We Need A Resolution" meets 808 State's 90 but maybe the more accurate early house touchstones are Frankie Knuckles and, in a slightly different, way, Adamski etc.
Great news about "Wad", Ben.
Great news about "Wad", Ben.
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yeah me too, considering the basically inexhaustible supply of amazing music around that ive never heard
the bruk radio show on saturday mornings is my favourite show right now
tim, seeing as you gave it as an example, might interest you that 'touch' was used by Cassy in this mix http://www.discogs.com/Cassy-Panorama-Bar-01/release/772763 it was a big crossover tune, and dj abstract was/is big in a few different scenes
the bruk radio show on saturday mornings is my favourite show right now
tim, seeing as you gave it as an example, might interest you that 'touch' was used by Cassy in this mix http://www.discogs.com/Cassy-Panorama-Bar-01/release/772763 it was a big crossover tune, and dj abstract was/is big in a few different scenes
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kromestar apparently
i caught a bit of your set last week, it sounded big, need to grab the download
i caught a bit of your set last week, it sounded big, need to grab the download