Problem with walking on this thread on page 2 and catching a pure porn argument, I thought owl and lark had just become slang words for some sort of sexual deviancy.
ie - "Get away from my kids, you filthy, fucking OWL"
"Yes sir, we do all services, but no anal - and certainly NO lark play"
oh god, i have expanded upon it. READ MY POST. You credit women with zero intelligence, and you speak about women as though they are objects with no free will of their own.
I don't know. I think most people probably use it for pain relief. Masturbation releases endorphins (or something). Of course when you get really into it, it doesn't particularly matter what you're looking at: I mean on one hand it's of the utmost importance, but on the other it doesn't matter whether you actually desire anyone the images are showing.
The way I usually do it, not to get too vulgar, is to spend the 1st hour watching things I'd like to be involved with myself, with people who I consider desirable. The second hour I start going for 'weirdness', but doing it slowly so it's still enjoyable. So by the third hour I'm usually coming up on ladyboy 'golden shower' type stuff... (not that there's anything wrong with that, of course. why repress?) seems to work well. But there are other variations I employ to keep things interesting.
The women whom they love (who get Madonnified) they can't defile with their deepest, darkest sexual desires and needs.
Men can't romantically love women who actively participate in wild sex, the way porn actresses or sex workers do.
I'd just like to say that this is not necessarily true (though probably sometimes true, I guess). I suppose it all depends on how well one's perversions match up with one's partners'.
Definitely, definitely not true.
But I agree with you about the crypto-sexism in why a lot of men object to porn/prostitution.
There was already a porn thread, wasn't there? I think I got involved for about a minute and then devolved into making silly schoolboy jokes.
I'm 100% owl, btw.
Just out of curiosity (you don't have to answer this if you don't want to): how long can you actually do this before you feel like you're satisfied or at least, done for the night?
talk of 'transgression' and 'chemistry' (ha!) is joke. explotation? duh, another no-brainer imo. i'm starting to feel angry... somebody pull me up on this one, please, i'd enjoy the opportunity to flex.
put simply, if one needs to watch paid whores (of any gender) to expand one's sexual experience then one is a miserable fucking lay. period.
A few years ago I suppose 'paid whores' were the only option if you wanted to do certain things (to 'expand' your sexual experience). But these days as Nomad said, there are groups on the internet where you can go to find a partner who is into exactly what you're into. (plus people just know about a greater range of things, thanks to porn)... might seem shallow to base a relationship solely on the fact that you both enjoy s & m, but aren't the best short term relationships terribly shallow anyway?
Plus, if yr particular scene is big enough, you have a good chance of finding someone with a nice/interesting personality too. I wonder what age you stop being interested in such things? Or maybe you don't but you're forced into retirement because of the shame of being old and still thinking about sex. Maybe the other group members ostracize you, or maybe they're chill with it as long as you're still in good shape.
That's where I met a lot of "gay-for-pay" male go-go dancers. At first I didn't believe they were actually straight, but eventually I realized they really were, which helped them make even more money, because the gays love the unattainability of the straight guy who is pretending to be gay or something.
It's really funny the things that get twisted up in those places. Like gay guys dressed like jocky frat boys pretending to be straight go-go dancers, dancing right next to the straight go-go dancers who are pretending to be gay, and so on.
quick owl post, whilst the larks lay sleeping.
i'm concerned at the misinterpretation of my post wrt female sex-workers - "zero intelligence" and "speak(ing) for them in every instance as if they are mute and mentally disabled" are serious and somewhat unfouded allegations considering that i deliberately used "participants" (non-gender specific) and "whores (of any gender)" to suggest otherwise. "any gender" was said explicitly to include transgender, which had been mentioned upthread.
to maintain that all sex workers are in the job for the love of it equally ludicrous, but nobody is actually saying that, are they??
to maintain that all sex workers are in the job for the love of it equally ludicrous, but nobody is actually saying that, are they??
I gather that an unbelievable amount of gay porn revolves around the theme of an ostensibly straight young guy being 'turned' or discovering his true inner gayness with the assistance of a bunch of burly bikers/sailors/whatever the preferred stereotype is these days.
Sounds like one of those daft Shakespearian farces where you have a female character disguised as a boy/man...but of course, as it would have been staged ca. 1600, all the female characters would have been played by boys anyway...
(Also, I love that the club you went to is called The Cock, there's a wonderful up-front-ness about the name.)
'Rectum'(Also, I love that the club you went to is called The Cock, there's a wonderful up-front-ness about the name.)