Your Journey to the Alt-Right.
My divination skills are good actually, that's one thing I can actually do.Mildly terrified by your divination skills but it sounds like a wild ride.
Corpsey
bandz ahoy
As I mentioned in COTD, I was listening to Eminem's second album the other day and in retrospect it seems like the clarion call of the alt right, though I suppose it's just an early symptom of the disaffection and cynicism re: the hypocritical edifice of mainstream American society. I'm sure there are reams of essays being written about/which have already been written about this subject.
constant escape
winter withered, warm
Nothing to aspire to? Or nothing human to aspire to?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
This has all the hallmarks of a classic constant escape thread: "Inhuman aspirations in the post-postmodern world".
constant escape
winter withered, warm
I actually wanted to make a thread about this, specifically about running an alt-right ideological subroutine within a ultimately progressive framework (two layers of pragmatism), in the interest of finding weak spots in the machine, escapeways for the swelling energy underneath - but I fear my banter protocols aren't yet sharp enough to keep a thread running long enough.
Plus the dogma of it all is, not unjustifiably, met with resistance. Admirable human resistance.
Plus the dogma of it all is, not unjustifiably, met with resistance. Admirable human resistance.
sus
Moderator
That sounds like an excuse not to write your own. I've never seen that take! Give it to us Corpsey
sus
Moderator
Yeah this is basically how I view my ideological stance
constant escape
winter withered, warm
Don't know if you looked through the second order pragmatism thread, but this is what I was getting at: the difficulty lies in nesting one belief system within a larger belief system. Because they are different, there will be contradictions. How can one be sure that the larger, "true" belief system will win out?
But the trick would involve some of the schizo stuff thats been brought up from time to time, as well as a basic understanding of incompleteness. It should be possible to operate within an inconsistent value system without merely bing ignorant or hypocritical.
Or perhaps the trick would just be the ability to instantaneously distance yourself from your current belief system. If you can do this, you can work out the ifs to the thens, perhaps effectively weaving between a collection of value systems.
It would also be, potentially, non-dialectical, which is hard for me to imagine because I practically live by the dialectical method.
But the trick would involve some of the schizo stuff thats been brought up from time to time, as well as a basic understanding of incompleteness. It should be possible to operate within an inconsistent value system without merely bing ignorant or hypocritical.
Or perhaps the trick would just be the ability to instantaneously distance yourself from your current belief system. If you can do this, you can work out the ifs to the thens, perhaps effectively weaving between a collection of value systems.
It would also be, potentially, non-dialectical, which is hard for me to imagine because I practically live by the dialectical method.
constant escape
winter withered, warm
Yeah and I'd be interested in exploring (further) the dynamics of a communist core with a capitalist cortex - but a thick cortex, perhaps the core being a point.
constant escape
winter withered, warm
But it could have some area - there could be a span of Communism before the Halting.
sus
Moderator
I more just see it as a means/ends separation. I think a lot of so-called "progressive" values are means-focused and won't actually improve people's lives, or the state of the world. A lot of progressives are pussies who can't or don't want to bite necessary bullets, it's all good-feely stuff.