IdleRich
IdleRich
Ah fair enough.No, I just completely misunderstood what you were saying. Sorry.
Though it has now made me think about whether it was true or not. Before you said that it had never really crossed my mind that it could be made up... hmmm. It is - as you say - rather convenient, but then it's hardly beyond the realms of possibility that it was at the forefront of her mind before she fell off her perch. It was the first thing everyone else thought about let's be honest. Is it really worth telling a sneaky lie of this kind to appeal to the better nature of a group of people who have demonstrated time and time again that they haven't got one? Most of all though I'd guess it depends on the character of the granddaughter herself - is she a loving relative faithfully reproducing her beloved gran's last words, or is she more likely to be a shrewd political operative who - without casting any aspersions on her feelings for granny - might not be totally averse to putting a few words into her mouth that she didn't actually say but which she probably really did intend to say and which do fairly represent the way she felt? I don't know who can answer that question.
But to the wider point, yeah, I do want them to fight more dirtily - or not even dirtily, but I want them to be more ruthless. It would really annoy me if Biden won the election and then gave Trump some kind of stupid amnesty or something. I think that this gang of crooks have done a massive amount of damage to the remnants of American democracy and it would not be good enough to just say "Oh, well, they're out of power now so they can't do any more harm" - to even begin to get the ship back on an even keel it seems to me that they will need to completely smash this cabal, they need to set an example that says - No! You can't get into power and use the office to cover up countless illegal acts and then expect to walk away with us namby-pamby dems just saying "We don't want to further damage the reputation of the office so please go off quietly somewhere and we won't pursue you".
I don't even see that as fighting dirty. I think that they have a moral duty to pursue these crimes - which remember do include cheating in an election, treason, illegal payments and something dodgy with his taxes, wrongly releasing convicted criminals to protect themselves and so on. The criminals who did all this need to be aggressively pursued and to have the whole weight of the law thrown at them as hard as possible. That's not even fighting dirty, that's just common sense. Otherwise Trump will hang around just lying and saying that he was exonerated and that Biden gave him a medal as the best president of all time but he had to step down despite winning the vote cos... whatever, some shite.
In the same way, I think that if Trump gets another nominee on the court and makes it super-conservative, then, if Biden does indeed find himself in a position where he reverse that by changing the overall number of judges and appointing thirty lefties to it, then he should fucking do it. In fact he has a moral duty to do it. Again he would be acting within the law, he would be overriding convention but it's fucking obvious that that wouldn't cause his opponents to hesitate for half a second. It's definitely now at that stage where we know everything about Trump and his cronies - we know how they operate and how they have no morals.
That quote about "Fool me once, shame on you - but fool me twice, shame on me" is totally apt at this point. If they don't take these obvious steps then it's all gonna happen again. It's even George Bush minimus understood this situation (almost - go to 45 seconds below)
So to me, that's all pretty obvious and barely qualifies as fighting dirty. I guess you could say that lying about RBG's last words (if she did) would actually be slightly more sneaky than the above - but I honestly, at this point, would be totally happy for the dems to go pretty fucking far in stopping this nightmare, as long as it works and they get away with it then I'm all for it. As my brother always used to say "there is nothing so satisfying as to cheat a cheat" so bring it the fuck on is what I say.