The Israeli intelligence failures get more ridiculous with each revelation:
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The Susan Boyle analogy was a surprise.
padraig (u.s.)
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they got complacent and sloppy, just like 73. heads of Shin Bet and Aman both publicly apologized iirc.
Netanyahu still carries a huge portion of the blame, not only for ignoring the more general warnings about lapses in Israeli security posture but also for making the entire country's focus for months his attempt to overthrow the courts. a lot of countries have that weird split between extremely serious foreign or domestic issues and run of the mill corruption scandals but Israeli politics really takes it to another level.
padraig (u.s.)
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yeah the containment policy has received extremely strong and widespread criticism in Israel
again, like 73, they thought they'd cowed the Arab states. they were wrong.
again, like 73, they thought they'd cowed the Arab states. they were wrong.
Mr. Tea
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Reading this, it's hard to avoid the feeling that nice, progressive Israel may have fallen victim to an attack by wicked, reactionary Hamas because their top brass ignored warnings that came from women who were probably worrying their pretty little heads about nothing, you know, like they do.
padraig (u.s.)
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seems like a good bet that once the war proper is over Mossad will attempt a post-Munich style assassination campaign against any Hamas leadership that makes it out of Gaza (Sinwar, Deif etc) and possibly the foreign leadership too
padraig (u.s.)
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ethnic cleansing fantasy 2.0. Egypt won't accept 2 million refugees, but maybe if we break them up into little pieces the rest of the world will.
was also the subject of a WSJ editorial a couple weeks ago by two current MKs
www.wsj.com
was also the subject of a WSJ editorial a couple weeks ago by two current MKs
Opinion | The West Should Welcome Gaza Refugees
Europe and the U.S. accepted millions who fled earlier wars.
www.wsj.com
padraig (u.s.)
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The lessons of these atrocities to wannabe terrorists is to plan six sigma attacks that are of such scale that they cannot be believed. Who would have thought that 9/11 would happen, for instance? Nassim Taleb needs to write a book about this.
Mr. Tea
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Maybe people who believe that humans deserve those rights behave, as a rule, differently from those who don't.
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assassination, no pun allusion intended, is a likely with tensions so elevated
padraig (u.s.)
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well, the anger against at both him and the prewar govt more generally is widespread and very strong. liberals and the left already hated him, so no surprise there, but he's also hemorrhaging support from his base. Likud polling numbers have fallen off a cliff since Oct 7 and his personal approval ratings are even worse. specifically, Likud is losing voter share to Benny Gantz's less extreme center-right coalition. otoh he's a slippery, amoral, narcissistic bastard and importantly there's not really a mechanism for removing him if doesn't want to go.
he's consistently avoided taking any kind of responsibility for Oct 7 and tried, unsuccessfully so far, to pawn it all off onto the intelligence services (which obv deserve some portion of blame). the longer he can drag this war out, or drag out whatever they call wartime - i.e. he could say that any post-war occupation until some new authority, be it the PA or whoever, takes over Gaza, is still a national emergency - the more he time he has to maneuver, continue trying to pawn responsibilty off, and wait for the political winds to somehow shift back in his favor. he's already trying to make the inquiry into its failures a govt one that he can can control, rather than a state-backed but independent inquiry like there was in 73.
and aside from his personal narcissism, the corruption trial - whence his nakedly Faustian deal with the Haredi and religious settler parties so he could avoid having to partner with anyone who'd reign him in i.e. Gantz or Yair Lapid - is still hanging over his head and he has to stay in power to continue his attempt to overthrow the judicial system, which you'd think was dead or at least on pause with the war but is in fact in still going strong. the Supreme Court has two vacancies and the minister of a justice, a Bibi lackey, is currently refusing to hold meetings to nominate new justices.
so idk man. you'd think he he as to go but it's more complicated. one possibility is a deal to somehow mitigate or drop the corruption charges if he agrees to resign but that's probably a last resort.
padraig (u.s.)
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it is insane that Israel is so yoked to this egomaniac btw
you know what's funny is that the previous generation of Revisionist Zionists actually saw it coming before anyone. there's a surprising number of insightful takes on young Bibi from people like Yitzhak Shamir and even his own father - basically, that he's always been a shallow, self-absorbed demagogue. and he really did pioneer the modern iteration of right-wing populism. all the stuff he does - whipping up support against a largely imaginary elite (or one which he is, in fact, a key member of) and riding the tiger of pandering to far-right militancy with plausible deniability for its actions - he's been doing since the 90s. speaking of assassination, he bears no small responsbility for Rabin's. his political alliance with Ben-Gvir and Kahanism is an extension of his parasocial relationship with Kahanists, including a young Ben-Gvir, in the 90s. the warning signs were all there all along.
you know what's funny is that the previous generation of Revisionist Zionists actually saw it coming before anyone. there's a surprising number of insightful takes on young Bibi from people like Yitzhak Shamir and even his own father - basically, that he's always been a shallow, self-absorbed demagogue. and he really did pioneer the modern iteration of right-wing populism. all the stuff he does - whipping up support against a largely imaginary elite (or one which he is, in fact, a key member of) and riding the tiger of pandering to far-right militancy with plausible deniability for its actions - he's been doing since the 90s. speaking of assassination, he bears no small responsbility for Rabin's. his political alliance with Ben-Gvir and Kahanism is an extension of his parasocial relationship with Kahanists, including a young Ben-Gvir, in the 90s. the warning signs were all there all along.
Mr. Tea
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Ah yes, this would explain the $3,300,000,000 in military aid the US gave to Palestinians last year. Obvious when you think about it.