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sou'wester
a good call - I use Sainsbury's Own looseleaf Assam. Tis fucking lovely.
giving up coffee
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a good call - I use Sainsbury's Own looseleaf Assam. Tis fucking lovely.
mistersloane
heavy heavy monster sound
Lol yeah cut n pasted! I really like that magazine though, it's the best thing about the Observer.
CHAOTROPIC
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Yeah, they give you this great wide handle-free bowl of warm (not hot) very milky but also extremely tasty coffee. No foam, just about a litre of flat, white liquid. Great for those long Parisian breakfasts. I'm not a coffee drinker but it just about converted me ... I've been drinking the stuff more & more at home now.
Actually, Luka, does that sound like a 'flat white', or whatever it was that the Kiwi's drink?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Well tea has other compounds in it like theobromine and theophylline (which are related to caffeine, but stronger I think - though present in much smaller amounts).
Your tea withdrawal experience makes sense. I mean, China didn't make war on Britain to force us to accept tea imports to pay for its opium consumption, did it?
Fact: tea is more addictive than opium.
Excuse me, the kettle's calling my name...
four_five_one
Infinition
Interestingly ever since I did a massive weekend binge on meth over a year ago, a cup of coffee has me shaking and very anxious at least an hour after it, especially on an empty stomach. I still drink it though, I just make sure I don't need to do anything/see anyone for an hour or so afterwards. Though, I've been struggling with general anxiety since then... I probably should cut out caffeine all together, but...
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Of all the stimulants I've tried, there aren't many that are as uncomfortable (physically and mentally) as too much caffeine in one go. It's definitely a drug that works best at the lower end of the dose range, I find - an actual 'caffeine high', as such, is pretty horrible.
scottdisco
rip this joint please
now this is the single finest thing i have ever read on this board.
did you know that the reason east asian bodies can not process alcohol as efficiently as Europeans is because of the 2 different methods used to solve the problem of bacteria in drinking water:
europe: drink fermented juice with water to kill germs - alcohol
asia: boil water and put herbs in it - tea
and after quite a few centuries of this our bodies produce different or different quantities of enzymes...
biologists on board vouch/slap down?
europe: drink fermented juice with water to kill germs - alcohol
asia: boil water and put herbs in it - tea
and after quite a few centuries of this our bodies produce different or different quantities of enzymes...
biologists on board vouch/slap down?
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Zhao, I've heard that idea before and it sounds quite plausible to me. I mean, I'm not a biologist of course but there's nothing in that hypothesis that seems unreasonable.
CHAOTROPIC
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It seems plausible. I don't think it's a very long-established trait. Hundreds or thousands of years, no more. & it's only certain parts of Asia that have a problem. I was in Mongolia a couple of years ago & they suck down vodka at a frightening rate, but they've been making fermented drinks from milk in the Gobi for at least a couple of thousand years. It was great drinking with them. Like getting pissed in Glasgow. All dirty jokes & backslapping & friendly fights & occasional good-natured bottlings. They're so used to drinking the Chinese under the table that they were frequently astonished that we could keep up
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that is so cool chaotropic. how long were you there? on vacation? did they speak english or do you speak mongolian?
i used to probably be able to keep up, back in LA when i used to have 6 or 7 long islands AND a half a dozen beers on any given night out, spending nearly 100 just on drinks, and then of course drive home...
now 3 beers and i'm well on my way to getting drunk
i used to probably be able to keep up, back in LA when i used to have 6 or 7 long islands AND a half a dozen beers on any given night out, spending nearly 100 just on drinks, and then of course drive home...
now 3 beers and i'm well on my way to getting drunk
nochexxx
harco pronting
very interesting, i've often wondered why that's the case. i can certainly pack it away when i want to though, must be my half english genetics kicking in.
are you half east asian like sloane and me????
me i'm half Chinese, and half Chinese. interesting mix i know...
CHAOTROPIC
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I was in the Gobi for a month looking for the Mongolian Death Worm as part of my cryptozoology expedition nonsense. Didn't find it. The place completely blew my mind though ... crazy stuff happening all the time. Spoke to a Russian scientist who told me completely seriously that he'd seen lightning strike a well in the deep desert & a dragon fly out of it & spiral off into the stormclouds. Mongolian tribesmen talking about digging dinosaurs out of frozen rivers & using them as food during the winter. More than bog-standard amazing shit. & crazy topography. Dodged six tornadoes in a jeep driving on a flat plain like a Dali landscape. Mistaking mountains for clouds. etc. & the Mongolians themselves are brilliant ... like a super-earthy weirdly shamanic mix of Russians, brawling Scotsman & Siberian shaman. They're tough as shit & really hilarious, with no sense of personal space. Plus they play ping-pong as well as the Chinese
You'd love it. The throat-singing alone makes it worth a trip.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Having met nochexxx the other weekend, I can corroborate this entirely.
'Sfunny, I used to know a guy who was half-Japanese and half-European (the European bit was Scottish and Dutch - two nations not averse to a tipple) and he was usually fine until he got to his third pint, at which point he started to go bright red...he used to joke that much beyond that point, he might as well be on anything, like PCP or whatever. He was a big guy, too.
I can imagine the genetics of alcohol tolerance are non-trivial...
I was in the Gobi for a month looking for the Mongolian Death Worm as part of my cryptozoology expedition nonsense. Didn't find it. The place completely blew my mind though ... crazy stuff happening all the time. Spoke to a Russian scientist who told me completely seriously that he'd seen lightning strike a well in the deep desert & a dragon fly out of it & spiral off into the stormclouds. Mongolian tribesmen talking about digging dinosaurs out of frozen rivers & using them as food during the winter. More than bog-standard amazing shit. & crazy topography. Dodged six tornadoes in a jeep driving on a flat plain like a Dali landscape. Mistaking mountains for clouds. etc. & the Mongolians themselves are brilliant ... like a super-earthy weirdly shamanic mix of Russians, brawling Scotsman & Siberian shaman. They're tough as shit & really hilarious, with no sense of personal space. Plus they play ping-pong as well as the Chinese
You'd love it. The throat-singing alone makes it worth a trip.
yes there are some places where the lines between this world and the next, between this world and the other parts of it that are less visible, are not so clear... i know more Tuvian throat singing than mongolian... i have to go.
luka
Well-known member
i can't remember if they use espresso in france or if its filter coffee or something.
but yeah flat white is flat ie no foam really, although the milk is steamed and poured onto an espresso shot or two.
im thinking about giving up coffee for a bit, just to stop shaking. its embaresssing.
Client Eastwood
Well-known member
Ive herad the same. Dont know about the genetics of it but I was a Uni with a Chinese guy and he would feel pissed after a pint of beer and feel really ill the day after.