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Pandiculate

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Yeah that's the same Begg. There are grime sets every night 8-10 on radar radio now too. The General Courts and Sirpixalot shows are a bit special.

Heard General Courts at the Rinse Niketown thing, he's good. I'm liking how live stuff is now, I remember when Spooky/Spyro/Butterz was the only shows worth listening too
 

CrowleyHead

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LMAO I think the DJ is Spooky.

But yeah, a lot of the newer younger guys tend to have bad bars and just shout. People still aren't investing in the personality thing except the Mez kid (I shall now reach out to this kid and explain he needs to give me a royalty rate for keeping his name in my mouth at all times, pause) and Novelist, except both of them have such obvious archetypes (D Double for Mez and JME for Nov). I do hope they break out of that but the latter is getting ran around to hang out with ASAP Rocky, and that kid's lack of personality is so strong it might swallow up any Novelist's had left after being used as a prop by Skepta.
 

Pandiculate

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It at least makes a change from Youtube Freestyle videos, those put me to sleep.

Yeah it wasn't great, a few MC's were decent though. That white guy that keeps shouting just kills the vibe so quick. It's like being in a youth club.

The set on soundcloud is 2 hours so I'm curious how they cut it, not going to listen to it though.

I liked: "I saw your girl from far, man a got the vision like Iniesta"
 
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luka

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in the early 00s I assumed, not understanding how talent is unevenly distributed in time and space, that the production line would never stop, would speed up even.

I thought every street in London had budding wileys Dizzees kano

But i was wrong

Sometimes there really is just something in the water
 

luka

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Disclaimer
Obviously it's more complicated than that and I'm not dismissing everyone about today out of hand
Just pointing to the extraordinary efflorescence of creativity and energy of that time and place
 
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Pandiculate

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in the early 00s I assumed, not understanding how talent is unevenly distributed in time and space, that the production line would never stop, would speed up even.

I thought every street in London had budding wileys Dizzees kano

But i was wrong

Sometimes there really is just something in the water

I'd like to imagine that the kids today just don't get enough practice in an environment like that, I bet for a lot of them that's their first time doing something like that. I've got a friend who's a grime MC and all he does is tunes and youtube freestyles.

I'm sure all great MC's first bars were crap, but the competition was so hard that people improved rapidly. Because going on sets and imprinting yourself in peoples minds was the only way to get ahead.
 

CrowleyHead

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I'd like to imagine that the kids today just don't get enough practice in an environment like that, I bet for a lot of them that's their first time doing something like that. I've got a friend who's a grime MC and all he does is tunes and youtube freestyles.

I'm sure all great MC's first bars were crap, but the competition was so hard that people improved rapidly. Because going on sets and imprinting yourself in peoples minds was the only way to get ahead.

X amount of these guys were jungle MCs or rappers or garage people who didn't make it, right?

I mean, D Double sounds great on jungle to me but IDK, maybe some jungle fanatic would be livid at me saying that in a world where Stevie Hyper D is god or w/e (no snubs there btw.) So maybe they'll get it right later on, whatever.

A lot of the problem is I guess its easy for them to presume that like... Because Road Rap which is like maybe their ultimate rival now, is so low-key in delivery and energy, they have to compensate with hype as volume now.
 

luka

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I believe in falling off, I don't believe in average joes turning into geniuses overnight or even after 10,000 hours of practise or whatever idiot rule that simpleton came up with
 

rubberdingyrapids

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i dont think every grime mc was on D&B etc. im sure they practiced to it, but only really in their bedrooms. i imagine for a lot of guys, grime was the first thing they really tried mc-ing over. i think that background prob helped for guys like riko or wiley, but i dont imagine tempz or kronik for example were on D&B (could be wrong though). i think its more that now you can just put something online without needing to practice very much whereas before that option wasnt really there. you had to get on sets in some way or another which involved potentially being embarassed in front of others.
 
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