treelethargy

many doors yes?
i've always avoided Stockhausen lol. the man always cheesed me off, and not for his 9-11 remark, just his weird superiority complex.

he's so misunderstood!! okay really, i immediately defend the likeliness of any artist i love. the 9/11 remark was an allegory but i feel like i'm putting myself up for grabs by saying he was right. better than damien hirst just plainly saying it was a mad real work of art. and he got away with it. the wanker. were people really that scared by stockhausen saying he came from sirius? academic safe space violated and also created simultaneously
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
he's so misunderstood!! okay really, i immediately defend the likeliness of any artist i love. the 9/11 remark was an allegory but i feel like i'm putting myself up for grabs by saying he was right. better than damien hirst just plainly saying it was a mad real work of art. and he got away with it. the wanker. were people really that scared by stockhausen saying he came from sirius? academic safe space violated and also created simultaneously

nah nah trust me you'll come to learn that I'm very hard to offend on these bords i can snap but not get offended.

It's more the package. it just cheeses me off. posh bloke shit.
 

other_life

bioconfused
cornelius cardew's browbeating maoist folk is SHIT. u can absolutely be communist and make this off the deep end kind of music. it's necessary to do it *right*, even.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
cornelius cardew's browbeating maoist folk is SHIT. u can absolutely be communist and make this off the deep end kind of music. it's necessary to do it *right*, even.

i agree with all of that actually, just find karleinz a bit too snotty. like i said, ilhan mimaroglu, luigi nono, xenakis etc etc do that shit whilst being commies.

I'll give stockhousen a chance again later this year.

As for Cardew's shit didactic Maoist folk, the weird thing about it is like that technically it hits all the right buttons. just like a trance anthem. this time i find it bit funny.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
amazing record. like xenakis charcole gone club ready. some really strange sounds. you can dance to it but it's also a huge head trip on its own. + she's really nice to talk to.

 

mvuent

Void Dweller
amazing record. like xenakis charcole gone club ready. some really strange sounds. you can dance to it but it's also a huge head trip on its own. + she's really nice to talk to.


all newer "academic" electronic music kind of sounds like that though. granular yet airy.


can be cool but it makes me think of this https://bobostertag.wordpress.com/computer-music-sucks/
Back in the “old days,” the electronic technology used in music was quite primitive, yet the range of music that was attempted was staggering, and a freewheeling spirit of adventure was prevalent.

Today, we have computers with technical capabilities inconceivable at the time of Varèse and the early works of Cage and Stockhausen. Yet as the technical capabilities have expanded, the range of musical possibilities which are being explored has become increasingly restricted.
 

mvuent

Void Dweller
yeah saying something contentious right before going to sleep wasn't a smart idea. oh well, I guess I can wait lol.

everyone's probably heard this but
 

mvuent

Void Dweller
amazing record. like xenakis charcole gone club ready. some really strange sounds. you can dance to it but it's also a huge head trip on its own. + she's really nice to talk to.


and of course I'm very interested in stuff like this and will listen beyond my ~30 second diagnosis
 
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luka

Well-known member
Reynolds loves this stuff. I've found it really really good to take drugs to. I downloaded, cheekily, vast amounts of the creel pone stuff, more or less at random a couple of years ago, enough that I still haven't digested it.

 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
This is the best one I have found


Goblin laughter

yeah that's a good un.

there's one from colombia called ingram marshall - cortez if i remember correctly. deep alien grinding gurgling drones summoned from hades. if anything had jinn connotations it would be that.


 
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