Why Conspiracy Theories?
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I used to watch Cathy o brien videos years ago and can’t quite remember why I thought they were particularly important other than that an older kid told me to do it, but there’s lots of curious things to take from it which don’t require you to take her at her literal word. For one her stage presence and conviction seemed different from a lot of other mk ultra trauma survivors, Arizona wilder and the like, and among people who seemed more inclined to take her at her literal word, she seemed to be less susceptible to be accused of making it up etc. So in that sense it’s curious, but maybe boring and obvious to lots of people, why some people in the Nutjob field rise to the surface when lots don’t, considering their audience is , in many ways , quite discerning, how come certain people making these extraordinary claims seem authentic.
And with her especially, because she makes these very extraordinary claims which you can understand figuratively , if you’re feeling charitable, but makes them out to be very explicitly things which literally happened to her, ie abducted by trans dimensional sex trafficking presidents, her whole “career” seems more compelling, if you’re feeling charitable
I don’t really know what to make of it much beyond “most curious indeed” but I like I said was bothered by her bigging up the president a few years ago, and I don’t think the interest is just a superior detached intellectual appreciation of the aesthetic forms of conspiracy because I’m too thick for that .
luka
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My interest isn't superior detached either. As I say part of the fascination is in allowing yourself to feel the dark undertow of it. If you don't allow yourself to feel the very real power of them, if you don't allow yourself to feel the seductiveness, then it's facile you've merely inoculated yourself and will have nothing interesting to say.
The same holds for any attempt to hold an aesthetic experience at bay. You can't understand it until you've succumbed or at least felt the tug of something you could succumb to.
The same holds for any attempt to hold an aesthetic experience at bay. You can't understand it until you've succumbed or at least felt the tug of something you could succumb to.
Mr. Tea
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Believe it or not, I really like patty and thing he's a decent guy. I enjoy reading about his adventures as a wandering psychedelic bohemian, I like the music he makes, much of which he was good enough to send to me, and I think his instincts are basically benign. That's why it pains me to see him getting sucked down this awful alt-right rabbit-hole of insane racist paranoia.
If someone I knew well in real life told me in all seriousness that they thought anything Alex Jones or David Icke had to say was worth listening to, I would be genuinely concerned for their mental health.
I don’t want to be rude and butt in, and judging by the number of posts you lot have racked up I imagine these feuds are reasonably long standing, but, just to say something really trite, I’m fairly confident, maybe arrogant, that I can keep up an interest in a lot of “this stuff”, even if it doesn’t amount to anything more than light entertainment, without some unchecked racist assumptions about the world being snuck in by the back door. Granted that is clearly not the case for lots of people, and it is important to keep those problems in focus, but I don’t think acknowledging in jest that 2 racist weirdos who are famous for talking about “elite mind control sex trafficking” have said things that might be similar to fairly uncontroversial things that seem to be the case, ie “elite mind control sex trafficking”, automatically puts you in company with frothing paranoid racists. But Im sure I’ve missed some context here so as you were .
shiels
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Yes. This is why logic or just scoffing is not enough. It’s like trying to convince someone who’s in love or afraid of flying with facts and statistics, it doesn’t work because their ego and nervous system is too entangled in the story, they’ve been seduced, they’re obsessed.
So what is the belief or obsession giving them emotionally? With conspiracy:
A sense of superiority - ha, i see behind the curtain, sheeple don’t
An excuse to do nothing - the illuminati control everything, it’s all pre-determined
A thrill and a fright - it’s a real life scary movie that evolves with current affairs!
What else?
Might have misunderstood but not everyone invested is doing so in bad faith, or has arrived at a belief because of a desire like the ones you’ve mentioned, with the stuff that foregrounds trauma for instance a lot of people are presumably reporting genuine experiences, what you take that to mean is up to you.
