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Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I loved Barry's post about the middle class.

Aber...

It's all a sideshow afaic. I'm LESS inclined to like Kate Bush cos she codes as middle class, drama student music. I *want* to hate her. Silly overblown deliberately weird theatrical art school shit. Panto shit. But the power of the choons overwhelmed my objections.

My reaction to music is very instinctive, many would say superficial. I don't listen to the lyrics much. I don't care about the videos. I don't know the words to any Kate Bush song. The videos actually get in the way. Same thing with Bowie - his costumes and all that, don't give a shit, if anything it predisposes me against him. But he did have classic songs.

Actually, since the ineffable aspects of music are what are really crucial, I'd argue that caring about anything else except that stuff is the truly superficial move.

So stick that in your arse
 

luka

Well-known member
How many good songs have most good artists got? I mean really good songs. You're lucky if you have one.

Yeah with her thiugh a lot of it I find really annoying. Which is different from being just a bit mediocre.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Actually, since the ineffable aspects of music are what are really crucial, I'd argue that caring about anything else except that stuff is the truly superficial move.

So stick that in your arse

oh come on. you are the biggest bach and beethoven fan here. that shit is intellectual to da bone. no need for the anti-intellectualism. hate the middle class but still be intellectual.
 

version

Well-known member
I thought nobody liked that one when I suggested it. Do it. I'm curious to see how it turns out. I'm expecting Madonna to get bodied.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
Why is it almost every woman I know loves Kate Bush? Total absence of cock rock macho stylings is the first thing I thought of.

She's one of the many artists I've barely listened to. Might have to rectify that.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
My very small store of Kate Bush knowledge inevitably is related to Wilhelm Reich. She'd not read Reich (AFAIK) when she wrote "Cloudbusting", but she had been reading Peter Reich's (Reich's son) autobiography of his childhood - "A Book of Dreams". His father had had him around when he'd been doing his weather experiments, which led to weird UFO type manifestations in the sky that Reich has fired his cloudbusters at (cloudbusters being the devices he built to manipulate the weather). The book is Peter Reich dealing with the loss of his father and other memories like that. It's a very touching work. IIRC you see a copy of it slipped into her pocket at one point. She's playing Peter Reich in the video. Reich is played by Donald Sutherland (which means he must be fucking cool).

"I still dream of Organon" the song's opening line, refers to Reich's research base and home in Portland, Maine, which is now the Wilhelm Reich Museum.

Here's a picture of a cloudbuster:
Cloudbuster2.jpg
 
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