The Dissensus Album Canon

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
they did but I don't think we have that luxury

he was making a list of 100 greatest records, which can be anything

this is specifically an albums canon, and then there's a whole other thread devoted to an individual tunes/anything goes canon
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
I'd really like to include something by the Velvet Underground - at least in part to represent myself - but idk if I can get away with it

perhaps Nico's trilogy of glacial downer harmonium records (Marble Index, Desertshore, The End)

in the same borderline sense as Suicide above

i'll tell you what is dissensus is this dead-eyed performance of Heroes
 

kumar

Well-known member
I'd prefer Shut Up + Dance - Dance Until the Police Come, but I like your thinking there

recommend everyone spends self isolation watching this video and becoming a wing chun master

garry mckenzie was shut up and dances sensei, theres a nice picture of him on the back of that record
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
runs into the same problem as its RIO companion, Henry Cow, of being too self-consciously outre

PiL already covers that territory better, in dissensus terms

ideal dissensus music is fwd and possibly (tho not necessarily) outre but still pop music at its heart, even if that heart is well obscured

there john peel session from 77 is jawdropping. a year before PIL. renders sex pistols irrelevant.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
really tho I'm annoyed that everyone spent years attacking Gilles Peterson's soulboy mentality and then just casually forgot about the most important post-soul acid house album.
 

Woebot

Well-known member
Lord knows we've tried!

the problem with the situation is that the person one is trying to convince is TOTALLY empowered. they can just (metaphorically) sit there with their arms folded and everything you produce they just go (winces).

and you find yourself, you know, scrabbling around trying to show things in their best light - making an ass of yourself. and then sometimes, just to keep the game going, they will chuck you a bone - "oh yeah that's ok" or "i quite like that"

and you can't make head or tail of why one thing passes their acid test and another doesn't...

it's a fool's errand trying to convince people of things like that. i always remember - pathetically - trying to convince my trance friends of the validity of jungle - and the pain it caused me...
 

Woebot

Well-known member
Joy Division - whichever LP of theirs k-punk favored

[name-dropping alert]

i was working with peter saville and i bought a copy of "closer" - and asked him to sign it for mark. it's funny i don't remember mark being that pleased! i think he was a bit miffed actually. that's the way with gifts.
 

luka

Well-known member
the problem with the situation is that the person one is trying to convince is TOTALLY empowered. they can just (metaphorically) sit there with their arms folded and everything you produce they just go (winces).

and you find yourself, you know, scrabbling around trying to show things in their best light - making an ass of yourself. and then sometimes, just to keep the game going, they will chuck you a bone - "oh yeah that's ok" or "i quite like that"

and you can't make head or tail of why one thing passes their acid test and another doesn't...

it's a fool's errand trying to convince people of things like that. i always remember - pathetically - trying to convince my trance friends of the validity of jungle - and the pain it caused me...

Yeah exactly.
 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
the problem with the situation is that the person one is trying to convince is TOTALLY empowered. they can just (metaphorically) sit there with their arms folded and everything you produce they just go (winces).
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Who do you think I am?!

I’m not some medieval princeling or a Nordic trickster taskmaster! I’ll like a house song if someone plays it to me.
 

kumar

Well-known member
perhaps an honourable mention for what some rudimentary bot might aggregate as ideal dissensus taste, but in reality is maybe the complete opposite
 
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