Ego

luka

luka

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luka said:
It's obvious what he was anxious about isn't it. Youre going into a different world with different rules and you feel out of place and square and like a big grey pudgy sausage and you think everyone will notice and laugh at you for your shit clothes and your painfully inhibited body language and your palpable fear of being bummed.
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Bummed.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
You're not following this discussion at all. To restate, they're scared of their own sexuality, but this has to reframed it as a fear of the dangerous gay man unable to control himself, who's going to rape them.
 
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DannyL

Wild Horses
I've been to gay clubs dozens of times and never been propositioned but have had a really good time. I have been assaulted in (technically just outside) "straight" pubs and clubs though. I know which one is more threatening.
 
luka

luka

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This is just people trying to prove how right on and liberated they are now which obviously is a dead end.

I'm not saying it is rational or desirable for anyone to feel those things. I'm saying it's understandable and unavoidable.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Sorry to hear about you being assaulted Danny, that's horrible.

I've been propositioned a few times (a product of going often rather than magnetic sexuality), but shockingly was able to say no thanks and it was received very well. Much better than most women I know when they've turned down men in straight clubs...
 
luka

luka

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Is it a big deal to go to a gay club? Obviously not. But that's not what I was getting that. I was just saying lets be honest about what we experience.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
luka said:
This is just people trying to prove how right on and liberated they are now which obviously is a dead end.

I'm not saying it is rational or desirable for anyone to feel those things. I'm saying it's understandable and unavoidable.
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No, you're just refusing to follow the conversation. it's not about being right on, it's about not claiming to be liberated while being homophobic out of fear of one's own sexuality.
 
luka

luka

Well-known member
A lot of which we know to be irrational and are able to override. All well and good.
 
luka

luka

Well-known member
The people that know what points I was making and why, know, and those that want to play a right on point scoring game can do it amongst themselves.
 
shiels

shiels

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This is an interesting area when thinking about ego. Posturing, virtue signalling, insecurities and prejudices and ignorance you feel but don't show, very egotistic
 
yyaldrin

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
luka said:
The other huge component of this is feeling that you are intruding somewhere where you don't belong.
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this is something i can relate to though. i remember having a nice chat with a girl one time and she was getting personal and then she asked me how my coming out had been and i felt like an imposter. made me feel terrible.
 
pattycakes_

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
yyaldrin said:
this is something i can relate to though. i remember having a nice chat with a girl one time and she was getting personal and then she asked me how my coming out had been and i felt like an imposter. made me feel terrible.
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What if she was just trying to find out if you were straight because she sensed you might be and in fact fancied you?
 
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