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Mayakovsky
By Frank O'Hara
1
My heart’s aflutter!
I am standing in the bath tub
crying. Mother, mother
who am I? If he
will just come back once
and kiss me on the face
his coarse hair brush
my temple, it’s throbbing!
then I can put on my clothes
I guess, and walk the streets.
2
I love you. I love you,
but I’m turning to my verses
and my heart is closing
like a fist.
Words! be
sick as I am sick, swoon,
roll back your eyes, a pool,
and I’ll stare down
at my wounded beauty
which at best is only a talent
for poetry.
Cannot please, cannot charm or win
what a poet!
and the clear water is thick
with bloody blows on its head.
I embrace a cloud,
but when I soared
it rained.
3
That’s funny! there’s blood on my chest
oh yes, I’ve been carrying bricks
what a funny place to rupture!
and now it is raining on the ailanthus
as I step out onto the window ledge
the tracks below me are smoky and
glistening with a passion for running
I leap into the leaves, green like the sea
4
Now I am quietly waiting for
the catastrophe of my personality
to seem beautiful again,
and interesting, and modern.
The country is grey and
brown and white in trees,
snows and skies of laughter
always diminishing, less funny
not just darker, not just grey.
It may be the coldest day of
the year, what does he think of
that? I mean, what do I? And if I do,
perhaps I am myself again.
By Frank O'Hara
1
My heart’s aflutter!
I am standing in the bath tub
crying. Mother, mother
who am I? If he
will just come back once
and kiss me on the face
his coarse hair brush
my temple, it’s throbbing!
then I can put on my clothes
I guess, and walk the streets.
2
I love you. I love you,
but I’m turning to my verses
and my heart is closing
like a fist.
Words! be
sick as I am sick, swoon,
roll back your eyes, a pool,
and I’ll stare down
at my wounded beauty
which at best is only a talent
for poetry.
Cannot please, cannot charm or win
what a poet!
and the clear water is thick
with bloody blows on its head.
I embrace a cloud,
but when I soared
it rained.
3
That’s funny! there’s blood on my chest
oh yes, I’ve been carrying bricks
what a funny place to rupture!
and now it is raining on the ailanthus
as I step out onto the window ledge
the tracks below me are smoky and
glistening with a passion for running
I leap into the leaves, green like the sea
4
Now I am quietly waiting for
the catastrophe of my personality
to seem beautiful again,
and interesting, and modern.
The country is grey and
brown and white in trees,
snows and skies of laughter
always diminishing, less funny
not just darker, not just grey.
It may be the coldest day of
the year, what does he think of
that? I mean, what do I? And if I do,
perhaps I am myself again.
They're badly written fucking bellends
i find almost all of the male characters have no redeeming features whatsoever, and all the women are also not very engaging, cos they're so passive. the peggy character is too cliched. like draper, i'm just finding him really annoying now, he doesn't change or develop at all.
i do like how they all smoke constantly, and drink loads of whisky
don draper is in a bar and the guy next to him is reading a book by frank o hara, called something on mayakovsky, he asks the guy if its any good, this guy is some greenwich village hipster and looks at draper in his suit, says he wouldn't like it. then later on you see draper readin git in his office and a few lines of that poem then sit over a bit of action. it's part of this whole 'birth of the 60s' subplot, but i find it very clumsy and badly done.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I really enjoyed Mad Men... one of the best of those looooooong series that appeared and took over telly from 2,000 onwards. Then again lots of the people who like it actually admire Draper and think he's supposed to be an icon of lady-killing cool rather than a violent and inadequate loser. So perhaps they didn't exactly that nail that... or perhaps people are stupid.
I think that the ending is quite interesting.... but maybe it's not worth your watching the intervening sixty hours of telly just to experience and debate that.
I think that the ending is quite interesting.... but maybe it's not worth your watching the intervening sixty hours of telly just to experience and debate that.
we're on series 2 and we are 3 episodes in and im barely watching it now. but it sort of works, we wanted some ambient tv we could just have on. all the minor guys piss me off as well. but draper yeah, he's so badly characterised for me. who knows, might hang on til the end. it sort of ties the evenings together for us. one curb, one mad men
IdleRich
IdleRich
Certainly it's not perfect - there are too many times when it seems as though the agency is certainly doomed and then some kind of improbable last minute twist or stroke of genius saves it - but the overall idea of telling the story of the most crass period (of the American century no less) of the most gaudy country through the medium of advertising is an instant winner.
IdleRich
IdleRich
I think there is one later on where they throw in a made up name as a reference and next did everyone was all over the internet trying to find out what it was. Or maybe it wasn't made up, just so obscure that no-one could find it, but that seems unlikely as it's said as though those he is speaking to would know about it.
yeah, it's definitely playing with that whole transition period. you might say the 60s began with kennedy's death? but soe would put it even later, 67? another gripe tho: dons whole backstory is nonsensical. i sppose they will reveal more, but at the moment, it's very thin