IdleRich
IdleRich
I don't really see the conspiracy theory behind C19. I see things online saying "You sheeple haven't realised that it's a way to control you, the government wants you locked down and they will keep extending it and if you're naive enough to believe will ever end then you're a fool". And that seems really stupid to me cos it will very quickly be proven totally wrong when lockdwon ends.
But basically, as far as I can tell, all the governments don't want lockdown. They have clear incentive to play down the number of deaths and the number of cases and the seriousness and so on. Cos the more deaths there are the worse they look, the more cases there are, the worse their inaction looks and so on. The more it carries on spreading, the harder it is to justify making people go back to work and so on.
All governments have a vested interested in saying that the outbreak in their country hasn't been that bad. That's what common sense tells us, and it's confirmed by the fact that every time someone in power gets busted cheating it's always in that direction.
So it's silly to argue that it's a government conspiracy... in fact i'd go further, that argument is dead, it's done, we know that there is not a government conspiracy.
And I think that what MB is arguing - not wanting to put words into his mouth - is more that there has been a kind of hysterical over reaction where the thing came along, infection rate and death rate was high at first, the most frightening predictions were - naturally - the ones that were loudest and it kind of scared everybody and there was a sort of chain reaction of confirmation bias where people looked for the virus as a cause of death and so they found it and this PR outcry sort of forced governments into overreacting and a softened up populace into going along with it and a kind of storm of hysteria built up and brought us to here.
Which is guess what you guys just kinda said. And yeah it's sort of boring. And, I think, unlikely, but - again not wanting to put words into mouths - the only reason for arguing that is cos you think it's true. No-one is romantically wedded to that idea. It's like an accidental conspiracy theory.
I don't know what other options there are... I guess the one that remains is some sort of coordinated doctor driven conspiracy but it doesn't really work for me. I've not even seen anyone suggest it really, but they're the only players with any agency left once governments are ruled out, as they have to be. Unless it's Soros and Bill Gates perhaps
But basically, as far as I can tell, all the governments don't want lockdown. They have clear incentive to play down the number of deaths and the number of cases and the seriousness and so on. Cos the more deaths there are the worse they look, the more cases there are, the worse their inaction looks and so on. The more it carries on spreading, the harder it is to justify making people go back to work and so on.
All governments have a vested interested in saying that the outbreak in their country hasn't been that bad. That's what common sense tells us, and it's confirmed by the fact that every time someone in power gets busted cheating it's always in that direction.
So it's silly to argue that it's a government conspiracy... in fact i'd go further, that argument is dead, it's done, we know that there is not a government conspiracy.
And I think that what MB is arguing - not wanting to put words into his mouth - is more that there has been a kind of hysterical over reaction where the thing came along, infection rate and death rate was high at first, the most frightening predictions were - naturally - the ones that were loudest and it kind of scared everybody and there was a sort of chain reaction of confirmation bias where people looked for the virus as a cause of death and so they found it and this PR outcry sort of forced governments into overreacting and a softened up populace into going along with it and a kind of storm of hysteria built up and brought us to here.
Which is guess what you guys just kinda said. And yeah it's sort of boring. And, I think, unlikely, but - again not wanting to put words into mouths - the only reason for arguing that is cos you think it's true. No-one is romantically wedded to that idea. It's like an accidental conspiracy theory.
I don't know what other options there are... I guess the one that remains is some sort of coordinated doctor driven conspiracy but it doesn't really work for me. I've not even seen anyone suggest it really, but they're the only players with any agency left once governments are ruled out, as they have to be. Unless it's Soros and Bill Gates perhaps