yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i want to read the tao te ching, can someone recommend me a specific version or translation? i see there is one out there by ursula le guin actually. @DannyL you might know this i think?
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
i want to read the tao te ching, can someone recommend me a specific version or translation? i see there is one out there by ursula le guin actually. @DannyL you might know this i think?
I'n not an expert on translations of the Tao te Ching actually. But what I'd recommend is having a look here: https://wayism.com/lifestyle/library/tao-te-ching/tao-te-ching-line-by-line-comparison
The authors of the site have put a bunch of different translations side by side so you could go through the first few chapters and see which one resonates the most?
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
I had this one for a while and thought it was very good: Gia Fu Feng & Jane English
I'd be tempted by Red Pine's edition also. He's a practitioner and translator of Buddhist poetry so (I'd imagine) he has that flair for language. I have a translation of Chinese nature poetry by him and its wonderful,
 
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luka

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I e got one by Addiss and Lombardo I like a lot. Classical Chinese being what it is the translations vary enormously.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Yeah that'll probably be the case for me as well. But it could be similar to the lecture/podcast + video game scenario, where your cognitive/cerebral labor is being offloaded/etched onto some other medium, be it a visual space or an aural space. A strange sort of archiving technique.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
One thing I like about it is the way it shows the variety of arguments that can be advanced for and against many moral decisions, while proclaiming that there IS a correct answer, that there is absolute good that has to be reasoned towards. But the sheer power of the arguments AGAINST what Milton believes is good undermines that sense of Good. Not least because God, as the embodiment (to use the wrong word) of good, moves in absolutely nonsensical ways. Milton is great at showing how people (and angels) can persuade others and themselves to do the right or wrong thing. What's boring and inexplicable about God is that God knows all and never questions himself, or anything else really. Again, probably a commonplace observation, but Milton's mind works in opposition to the divine, settled order of things - he questions, he argues, he agonies, etc. There's this double-mindedness to the whole thing which makes it extremely strange.

I mean Jesus Christ I'd be incapable of this sort of thing right now.
 

luka

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Rolling round in an adult nappy with a wide screen TV the size of one wall, ordering deliveroo and masturbating, all swathed in a cosy marijuana fug. We have to put a stop to this!
 

luka

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we know. that's why youre all dissipated and soft round the edges. no vitality and no focus!
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'm on holiday next week but after that its asceticism. Just Proust, vegetables and the occasional acid trip for your boy Corpsey.

(But should it be Proust? Will he get in the way of my spiritual rebirth?)
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Dunno really... Proust?

One of these days I need to read Ulysses. Blake, I suppose. The Prelude. Anna Karenina. Strictly the big looming monsters.

Weed makes it impossible to tackle a big beast of a book/poem. At least for me.
 

luka

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yeah cos it sucks your life out of you. you can dream with a line or even a single word but you wont have the muscles to get through a book
 

luka

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well stop doing it then!

i had a bit recently. the first time the rose window spun before my thrid eye and i reconnected to the spiritual switch board. the second day it drained me and sent me into the nether regions.
 
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