The New World

luka

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i didnt call you stupid. ive been scrupulously avoiding bickering with you for months now.
 

sus

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to be fair I'm exaggerating for effect, but I did feel the want to push against the "slow disintegration from Badlands" narrative, as someone who thinks he only starts coming into himself with Days of Heaven
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
I have to repeat that just by having the argument it proves The New World is an interesting work

whether or not it's "good"
 
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sus

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watching Thin Red Line tonight for the first time, the only one I haven't seen, I'm looking forward... but also hoping he takes it easy on the hopelessness, sometimes his films just crush me. my partner Nico was sad for like a week after watching New World
 

sus

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well, I think a fair number of hardcore Malick fans feel similar ways, but I get that something like To The Wonder isn't to people's taste. It's even possible it can't be watched sober, I've only watched it hazy!
 

version

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My biggest issue with Malick is his pacing and insistence on so many lines being whispered. There's actually a warning at the start of The Tree of Life to make sure the volume's right up in order to hear the dialogue.
 

IdleRich

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it's a sad day when you and @luka are reduced to just calling me stupid over, of all things, Terrence Malick

come on, you're a master cinephile. luke has all his mystical poetry looking at things sideways etc business. you guys can do better.
OK but it's a weak argument to say- effectively - you're criticising it so it must be good.
 

luka

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watching Thin Red Line tonight for the first time, the only one I haven't seen, I'm looking forward... but also hoping he takes it easy on the hopelessness, sometimes his films just crush me. my partner Nico was sad for like a week after watching New World

youre going to hate it its got this ridiculous Sean Penn voiceover all the way through it.
 

sus

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@Linebaugh Days of Heaven if you want the most generally beloved/celebrated, least controversial in his oeuvre probably. New World for direct relevance to current threads. But curious what Padraig would say
 

sus

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don't watch Badlands, it's not representative of the part of his style that's controversial around here (and in general). first film and all
 

sus

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youre going to hate it its got this ridiculous Sean Penn voiceover all the way through it.

In Austen's Emma there's this wonderful character, Emma's dad, Mr Woodhouse... when his servant gets married and has a proper estate of her own, he's terribly sad to lose her company, and so whenever he thinks or talks of her, it's with such remorse: "Oh, Ms so-and-so must be so terribly sad over on the other side of town... our home is so much more grand, what a terrible thing for her." and Emma has to keep reminding him that actually, she's very happily married and glad to no longer be household help, etc
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
watching Thin Red Line tonight for the first time
I think you will enjoy it

it's open to basically all the exact same criticisms as The New World but less so, as it's more grounded in the visceral

whether that's because of the source material - a novel I highly recommend - or because he wasn't as comfortable soaring off into tone poem, or both, idk

I would say it's - to its credit - more ambiguous in its relation to hope than The New World, which again is borne out in the source material
 
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