The Coming Authoritarianism.

luka

luka

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We get along alright but you keep saying jarring stuff we can't co-sign, like the blacks deserve to get shot for being uppity and that burrito apps will save the world and bodega /// are good.

Who's going to agree with that? These are pariah opinions.
 
sus

sus

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The only one of those things I said is that I liked Bodega, and there are no slashes in their name
 
sus

sus

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I would never say blacks deserve to get shot for being uppity, and it's clear from this thread I do not think burrito apps will save the world, so I won't even both with that one.
 
sus

sus

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My only real opinion I care about in this thread "tech bros" are not broadly evil, but that current consumer desires for free shit online leads to the very data surveillance state that they bemoan.
 
sus

sus

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Linebaugh said:
Theres a difference between idiosyncratic stances that may be hard to read and wanton speculation on others beliefs. Theres lots of the former and little of the latter.
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How can you say I'm exemplary in this, given the way I feel my own stances are being distorted in this thread? There's projection on both sides, that's part of playing fast and loose. I can reign it in and try to be fair, but that doesn't seem to be the game 'round these parts
 
sus

sus

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suspendedreason said:
How can you say I'm exemplary in this, given the way I feel my own stances are being distorted in this thread? There's projection on both sides, that's part of playing fast and loose. I can reign it in and try to be fair, but that doesn't seem to be the game 'round these parts
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also all my non-controversial threads like mr rich tea and zoomers don't get any feedback! hate the game, not the player! these are incentive structures baby!
 
linebaugh

linebaugh

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suspendedreason said:
How can you say I'm exemplary in this, given the way I feel my own stances are being distorted in this thread ("apps will save the world"). There's projection on both sides, that's part of playing fast and loose. I can reign it in and try to be fair, but that doesn't seem to be the game 'round these parts
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That was luka and pretty clearly a good bit in jest. You accused of being NYT readers twice! Thats so specific its weird!

suspendedreason said:
My only real opinion I care about in this thread "tech bros" are not broadly evil, but that current consumer desires for free shit online leads to the very data surveillance state that they bemoan.
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we know that, the comment that started this conversation literally said its not all tech bros. The biggest tech companies have a penchant for insidious business practice, so if we want to talk about it it doesn't seem all that ridiculous that we dont tenuously qualify every statement we make.
 
version

version

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Based on what I know of people and history, I think pursuing a technology which allows some people to monitor others on an unprecedented scale and even use that information to influence their behaviour is incredibly dangerous.
 
sus

sus

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Well, we already developed that, reputation-tracking is a social technology not all animals have, it's specifically to track cooperation and defection in communities
 
sus

sus

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The tech already exists and has existed for tens of thousands of years. We're just getting better at it.
 
version

version

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This stuff comes back to my issue with treating capitalism like an entity or force in its own right and what vimothy was saying about treating things like natural processes. We don't have to turn into this data-harvesting society. We can choose not to do it. We can build and play other games. The current game isn't some natural law.
 
sus

sus

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version said:
This stuff comes back to my issue with treating capitalism like an entity or force in its own right and what vimothy was saying about treating things like natural processes. We don't have to turn into this data-harvesting society. We can choose not to do it. We can build and play other games. The current game isn't some natural law.
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Yes, by making it illegal to collect data, or else by consumers choosing to pay for non-data-collecting services
 
sus

sus

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But if consumers are happy enough with the "ads for free software" exchange, and prefer it over subscriptions, and if governments aren't banning things, why are we blaming the entrepreneurs who provide what people are asking for (and preferentially using)?
 
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