chava

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We're very much like the Dutch, though. Business wise they are of course superior. Dutch people are all about business, even more so than the Anglos.
 

sus

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Remember when you were a Leftist? You thought that the Left figured it out, that the Right just Doesn't Think Deep Enough. Then you Thought Deeper and Deeper, thinking you would become more and more Left. Then you found these obscure theorists and oh, what's that? She's a leftist but she doesn't like Identity Politics? Didn't know that was possible. He's a nationalist? I guess that's okay as long as he's a Non-White Nationalist, hehe.

Now you're in the Dirtbag Left. You don't like woke capitalism and idPol. You read Zizek, maybe Lacan, maybe someone less mainstream you just learned about today. And you discover r/sorceryofthespectacle. And you see some guy saying that once you're here you either go Mark Fisher or you go Nick Land. But then you hear that lecture by Mark Fisher saying Nick Land is kind of okay (how could he not? they're both Cyberz). Wait, is Deleuze a Fasist? Is Heidegger? Is Badiou? But I thought fascists were bad. And then these obscure online mag you've been fallowing for a month turns out to be fascist, (well, not quite, they're actually NRx, or tradcaths, or something you've never heard of), but didn't they hate liberalism and capitalism and the evangelicals?

Now you're confused. You go into r/sorceryofthespectacle and demand to know what the fuck is going on. Are you guys communists? are you fascists? are you trolls or nihilists? They answer with some Joycean proto-pyschotic babble. One guy quotes Evola, says he's a superfascist. You don't know if he's being ironic. Perhaps even he doesn't know. Then you remember Lacan (is he a fascist too?). You remember the Real, you recall how the Real doesn't allow for meaning and coherence. You remember there is no meta-language and begin to wonder if there is also no meta-politics. Based, you think to yourself. You feel smart and post it to r/sorceryofthespectacle. You get karma and feel good. Is this the Spectacle everyone's always going on about? No, It Must Be The Real Of Jouissance. Now you can rest. You are happy. And just how many times have you told yourself that before.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
A proposal:

The most appropriate ideological axis for the present day is no longer left-right, market-statist or liberal-authoritarian, but cucked-based.
 
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poetix

we murder to dissect
Presumably in this context (which is already a right-wing framing) "cucked" means absorbed into the spectacle, deceived, unable to perceive or act in your own real interests; "based" means pragmatically and materially grounded, knowing your own mind, knowing what's what. Of course as Lacan says, les non-dupes errent: this position of being one of the happy few to be truly in contact with reality is a fantasy.
 

luka

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That'll put the young upstarts in their place! Sometimes these demonsttations of force and authority are exactly what's needed.
 

luka

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Your own interests being identified with the power structures you are fortunate enough to inherit, and which were gifted you by the might and superiority of your white ancestors and which, if you have any decency and spunk, you will pass down to your children.

If you are not a low-t soy boy, simp, beta male, white knight, cuck etc
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
Paranoid cucks accept the libidinal contract of the spectacle and dutifully fear and hate what the spectacle tells them to fear and hate (you know, fascists, eugenicists, white supremacists, people like that); neurotic cucks are never sure if anything they think is true is really true - they're dimly aware of the sea of disinformation they swim in, but have no concept of dry land - so they default to a nervous liberal tolerance. The paranoid based are, well, the alt-right - they think there's a conspiracy (the aforementioned spectacle, the Cathedral, institutional capture by egregores, etc) to suppress the truths they have ascertained. I'm not sure what the neurotic based are meant to be like though; and as I say, the whole framing is a right-wing fantasy anyway.
 
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