Smartphone addiction

shiels

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luka said:
whats he say? i cant listen to someone speaking for 7 minutes. its impossible for me.
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yyaldrin said:
i'm considering buying a "dumb" phone which i can take with me if i need to and just leaving my smartphone at home. whatsapp and stuff like that also work without a sim card. so in that way i would still be reachable but wouldn't be distracted all the time and i wouldn't lose contact with my friends from whatsapp.
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Yeah I ditched my smartphone for a dumbphone two years ago, and it feels like I've been able to better develop, psychically.

But I've been in college for most of the last two years, and only had to work a couple month-long jobs. Having a flip phone ended up working out, but I could tell that it was suboptimal in the eyes of certain coworkers. The jobs involved a lot of driving around LA, going to places I wasn't familiar with, and not having the GPS impacted the ease with which such things can be done.

So I guess one would have to expect such handicaps, and perhaps figure out a way to compensate for them. But it doesn't feel like we've quite reached the point where employers would turn you down for not having a smart phone - at least not across the board. I'm sure it would factor in, here and there.
 
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But the benefits have been robust as well. Memory being exercised, seeing as I can't bank on looking something up on the spot. Better awareness of environment as I am walking/driving around a city, seeing as I can't bank on GPS. Better attention span, not being compelled to look at it every so often. Perhaps making it easier to invest yourself in your interactions with people, seeing as you no longer have backburner conversations/feeds active at all times.

But then again, similar to the work handicaps, it also comes with social handicaps. One would need either to compensate there as well, or be comfortable with a smoldering-to-snuffed social life.
 
luka

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you dont need any friends beyond dissensus. they're just dragging you down. cut all ties. you are ours now.
 
woops

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i went back to university in 2009 or thereabouts and internet use was a compulsory part of the experience, collaborating on documents and "building" a resource, no escape
 
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luka said:
you dont need any friends beyond dissensus. they're just dragging you down. cut all ties. you are ours now.
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"So guys, not sure how to say this, but according to a recent mandate I'm obligated to uphold, I'm not to interact with any of you, anymore. If you receive this text, please pass it on to others who may have considered themselves a friend of mine."
 
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shiels said:
a novel way of thinking about writing in the digital age. All internet activity is writing, code is language. Data mining as writing. We’re writing even when we’re scrolling, writing about ourselves, writing a self

Twitter as a machine that wants you to write more by keeping you scrolling and also making you more depressed and angry, emotional states that are conducive to more writing. Twitter as controversy machine to make more writing
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i think there's a useful distinction between creating and consuming - compooters are OK for writing, smartphones are pretty useless.
Video is an exception to that, but we're old for vlogging i think
 
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woops said:
i went back to university in 2009 or thereabouts and internet use was a compulsory part of the experience, collaborating on documents and "building" a resource, no escape
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yeh i had that experience too - it's mind boggling now to think of uni without IT in the 90's (or the previous several millennia), but we did it
 
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woops said:
i went back to university in 2009 or thereabouts and internet use was a compulsory part of the experience, collaborating on documents and "building" a resource, no escape
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True, but what is perhaps less compulsory is having internet on you at all times. This may be becoming more compulsory, but one can still manage without it, albeit perhaps at the cost of ones social life being dampened.
 
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boxedjoy

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One of the girls at work has just started her undergrad in biomed science and was telling me she is in 17 different whatsapp groups for uni - group work, classes, tutorials. She was saying she can't mute them because she's afraid she will miss something. It sounds wretched tbh
 
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boxedjoy

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Don't get me wrong - ten years ago we had Bebo groups (!) and smartphones and email threads. It wasn't like it was completely different. But this sounds so much more intense and fast-moving than anything we ever had. Also do all 18 yr olds start uni with a decent phone/contract that's conducive to all this, because I doubt I would have.
 
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boxedjoy said:
Don't get me wrong - ten years ago we had Bebo groups (!) and smartphones and email threads. It wasn't like it was completely different. But this sounds so much more intense and fast-moving than anything we ever had. Also do all 18 yr olds start uni with a decent phone/contract that's conducive to all this, because I doubt I would have.
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Do you think its because such practices are being adopted by neoliberalism, in general? Like its proven to be a robust means of communication, and thus ought to be used for work and not just play? And that is when it becomes compulsory?

edit: communication, in the interest of optimized practice, most generally.
 
woops

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well there's an established trajectory for new communications technologies isn't there, in that it's used first for war, then pornography, then we could perhaps fit academia, cat videos and out of office hours urgent requests into the schedule too
 
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shiels said:
a novel way of thinking about writing in the digital age. All internet activity is writing, code is language. Data mining as writing. We’re writing even when we’re scrolling, writing about ourselves, writing a self

Twitter as a machine that wants you to write more by keeping you scrolling and also making you more depressed and angry, emotional states that are conducive to more writing. Twitter as controversy machine to make more writing
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a machine that produces writing but also ruins any writing longer than 2 sentences. if you read essays now they're all a disconnected series of proclamations, like a twitter feed.
 
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woops said:
well there's an established trajectory for new communications technologies isn't there, in that it's used first for war, then pornography, then we could perhaps fit academia, cat videos and out of office hours urgent requests into the schedule too
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What's the final resting place for these communication technologies? Who's in the crater, still sending faxes? Probably Matt fucking Hancock.
 
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