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MIT 15.S08 FinTech: Shaping the Financial World, Spring 2020
Class 1: Intro and Key Technological Trends Affecting Financial Services




An introductory session, so it was mainly an overview for the course.

The definition given for fintech was the one provided by the Financial Stability Board:

Technology-enabled innovation in financial services associated with new business models, applications, processes or products, all of whic have a material effect...

The professor, Gary Gensler, gave the examples of the telegraph and the telephone, explaining that they expedited or otherwise optimized certain payment processes. He also stressed the disruptive nature of such technologies, seeing as they tend to reorient certain aspects or circuits within the larger financial system.

I had the thought that perhaps this kind of disruptive impact, if below a certain impactfulness threshold, merely serves to reorient processes within a system, whereas if it is above some kind of impactfulness threshold, it can serve to reorient the system itself, ushering in some kind of novel paradigm shift, phase shift, etc.

That is, if a certain technical innovation enables enough of a breadth of new techniques, it may warrant a transformation of the pre-existing system around it, rather than merely a partial adjustment of the system into which it was introduced.

How technical impact can be quantized, and how that critical threshold can be ascertained, I don't know. I'm sure you can find some data that dances around it, points at it, but I'm not sure how robustly. Perhaps data to do with the introduction/resurgence of certain keywords within certain texts, or any increases in the frequency of new keywords, etc.

Gensler also brings up the so called "Big Tech DNA loop" that consists of data, networks, and activities.

He used Facebook as an example, having a network of around two billion users (taking his word for that), around whom data are cultivated. Facebook can robustify its data collection by introducing new activities for its users.

Another interesting point Gensler brought up: BlackRock, one of the top firms in the world. What that really entails, I don't know. But his point was that BlackRock uses machine learning to listen into conferences and discussions on finance, to track which keywords prove to be associated/correlated with market incline/decline.

Wiki on BlackRock:

BlackRock, Inc. is an American global investment management corporation based in New York City. Founded in 1988, initially as a risk management and fixed income institutional asset manager, BlackRock is the world's largest asset manager, with $7.4 trillion in assets under management as of end-Q4 2019

The course is gonna get into AI more, as well as blockchain. Gensler, who used to work for Goldman Sacks in some capacity, briefly asserted that blockchain is exerting a distinct and novel force on finance, but he didn't make it sound impactful enough to reorient the whole global financial system. That said, he's yet to have gone into detail about it.
 

constant escape

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constant escape

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Might as well be. First I put up an image from Se7en, but it seemed a bit too menacing. Morgan Freeman stalking through a grid of green lights, wearing a trench coat or some such. Suboptimal vibes.
 

constant escape

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Perks of being insane. Unbound by the actual tenability of certain tasks. Negative feedback is harnessed and processed by a vast schizo-psychic reactor. Preclusion of demotivation, every limit merely an obstacle to be overcome, etc, hence all the talk about capitalism being a heuristic ideologization of basic physical dynamics. Heuristic, so not perfect. Room for distillation yet.
 

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And that would be the long term anti-capitalist project, distilling the dominant global ideology into something even more deeply reflective of basic physical developmental trajectories. Each societal system being pregnant with its successor, no?
 

Leo

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however, you sell yourself short by posting in gobbledygook most of the time.
 

constant escape

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True, a ton of it isn't thoroughly processed, just scooped all messily onto the plate in one confused blob, a half-cooked something-or-other sticking out, winking at you.
 

Leo

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food for thought, though. that's important. I just think long posts tend to discourage engagement.
 

beiser

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He used Facebook as an example, having a network of around two billion users (taking his word for that), around whom data are cultivated. Facebook can robustify its data collection by introducing new activities for its users.

Another interesting point Gensler brought up: BlackRock, one of the top firms in the world. What that really entails, I don't know. But his point was that BlackRock uses machine learning to listen into conferences and discussions on finance, to track which keywords prove to be associated/correlated with market incline/decline.

the old phrase about big data is that it's like college freshmen having sex—everyone says they're doing it, everyone thinks everyone else is doing it, very few people are doing it.

If it worked, it would be done very quietly and under the cover of secrecy; if you're hearing about it, it's going poorly or it's a vanity project to boost firm reputation or mislead competitors. The usecases you've suggested around facebook and Blackrock—they could theoretically work in the short term, but the fundamental structure you're stacking up to in theory is very plastic. AI is deployed sometimes in earnest, and multiple times more often as a sort of propaganda tool to create the impression of competitive invulnerability, smoke and mirrors.

The adtech firms are the worst example—everyone says they can track you all over, do all sorts of incredible analytics, predict your behavior—it's lies, salespeople, they're idiots, they don't know anything, they systematically fake the data in order to look plausible and then cover it up with brags.
 

beiser

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Perks of being insane. Unbound by the actual tenability of certain tasks. Negative feedback is harnessed and processed by a vast schizo-psychic reactor. Preclusion of demotivation, every limit merely an obstacle to be overcome, etc, hence all the talk about capitalism being a heuristic ideologization of basic physical dynamics. Heuristic, so not perfect. Room for distillation yet.
this is obviously true; elon musk, kanye, the key competitive advantage is mania
 
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