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Leo

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it'll never be acknowledged by the "well, trump kept us out of stupid wars" crowd here and elsewhere, but ya know.

President Joe Biden announced on Thursday the end of U.S. support for offensive operations in Yemen and named a new envoy to oversee the nation’s diplomatic mission to end the civil war there, part of a broader foreign policy address highlighting greater U.S. engagement in the world.

“This war has to end,” Biden said during his first address on foreign policy as president. “We are ending all American support for offensive operations in the war in Yemen including relevant arms sales.”
 
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sufi

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it'll never be acknowledged by the "well, trump kept us out of stupid wars" crowd here and elsewhere, but ya know.
President Joe Biden announced on Thursday the end of U.S. support for offensive operations in Yemen and named a new envoy to oversee the nation’s diplomatic mission to end the civil war there, part of a broader foreign policy address highlighting greater U.S. engagement in the world.

“This war has to end,” Biden said during his first address on foreign policy as president. “We are ending all American support for offensive operations in the war in Yemen including relevant arms sales.”
unbelievably good news,
literally. good but i'll believe it when i see it, & hopefully the uk lapdog will trot along behind
 

Leo

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Gets at what we were discussing yesterday, @Diefreien

White House memo: Obstruction will cost GOP

"There seems to be a growing conventional wisdom that it is either politically smart — or, at worst, cost-free — for the GOP to adopt an obstructionist, partisan, base-politics posture," Donilon writes in the two-page memo, obtained by Axios. "However, there is lots of evidence that the opposite is true: ... this approach has been quite damaging to them."

Between the lines: The memo cites a Morning Consult poll showing a Biden approval rating of 62% with registered voters. Just 23% of registered voters think the Republican Party is going in the right direction, while 63% say the party is on the wrong track.

  • Other data points: Tens of thousands of Republicans across the country have switched party affiliation since the Capitol riot, the N.Y. Times reports. The Economist/YouGov polling finds a decline in voters calling themselves Republicans since November (from 42% to 37%).
  • "[Y]ou see a party shrinking its appeal in this country — not growing it," Donilon writes. "Opposing President Biden’s American Rescue Plan only exacerbates Republicans' predicament. ... [T]he GOP is putting itself at odds with a rescue package supported overwhelmingly by the American people."
Polls put support for Biden's American Rescue Plan at 68% (Quinnipiac) or more.
  • Donilon called opposition to the plan "politically isolating": "The country is looking for action. For progress. For solutions. On COVID. On the economy. You see it and hear it all over the country. Voters are hurting."
 

Diefreien

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Gets at what we were discussing yesterday, @Diefreien

White House memo: Obstruction will cost GOP

"There seems to be a growing conventional wisdom that it is either politically smart — or, at worst, cost-free — for the GOP to adopt an obstructionist, partisan, base-politics posture," Donilon writes in the two-page memo, obtained by Axios. "However, there is lots of evidence that the opposite is true: ... this approach has been quite damaging to them."

Between the lines: The memo cites a Morning Consult poll showing a Biden approval rating of 62% with registered voters. Just 23% of registered voters think the Republican Party is going in the right direction, while 63% say the party is on the wrong track.

  • Other data points: Tens of thousands of Republicans across the country have switched party affiliation since the Capitol riot, the N.Y. Times reports. The Economist/YouGov polling finds a decline in voters calling themselves Republicans since November (from 42% to 37%).
  • "[Y]ou see a party shrinking its appeal in this country — not growing it," Donilon writes. "Opposing President Biden’s American Rescue Plan only exacerbates Republicans' predicament. ... [T]he GOP is putting itself at odds with a rescue package supported overwhelmingly by the American people."
Polls put support for Biden's American Rescue Plan at 68% (Quinnipiac) or more.
  • Donilon called opposition to the plan "politically isolating": "The country is looking for action. For progress. For solutions. On COVID. On the economy. You see it and hear it all over the country. Voters are hurting."
While I love seeing the GOP tearing itself apart, I'm worried that the DNC chiefs are gonna use this opportunity to shift to the right in order to "attract" disavowed Republicans. I can very much see the DNC the Lincoln Project card to reject any progressive demands, particularly with climate change and whatnot, in order to meet a "middle-ground". At the same time, Biden's overtures to the left did surprise me as I've mentioned. But I can see someone like Harris or Buttigieg going full corporate centrist to become "national unifiers" and trying to kill their former progressive images they had prior to 2020.

I'm hoping a substantial anti-Trump base remains or forms a quasi-independent caucus within the GOP in order to keep the former possibility from happening., while keeping in-fighting going. In a perfect world we'd heave several major parties as a result of this, but that doesn't look like it's happening. If the two-party system was kept - and grew stronger - with the Great Depression and its aftermath, idk what would be needed to destroy it now.
 

Diefreien

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He's butting heads with them over student debt atm.
Oh yeah it was clear it wasn't going to be long until they'd go back to loggerheads (the Jan 6th riots were a good rally-and-flag event for the Biden admin), but the cutting relations with the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen and cancelling private prison contracts at the federal level was def surprising I feel like.
 
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