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IdleRich

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i'm getting a bit tired of this "reading is boring, never read, i never read" it's funny once or twice but you seem to have confused it with an actual stance @luka. agitprop probably is well boring but there are agitators who would eat it up without the £1000. no one here dislikes reading on principle. even stan was into listening to lectures which is a passive form of reading. but well done it's funny to pretend that we are all illiterate sons of the local pub.
Yeah I agree with this. I'm actually still upset from the time that you had never read Nabakov and that you didn't need to cos - and I realise this is a crude and shallow summary of your position, but in the circumstances you can hardly complain about that - you knew what it was like. Yeah, maybe you don't NEED to read him, and your rules for what needs to be read are different from mine, but you can read him and you would enjoy it and make you smile and make your day better and maybe you'll talk about it to someone else or just give them a smile cos you're thinking about the cunningly intertwined realities of Pale Fire and basically the world will be better. And it's not because of your peculiar stance which seems designed to take things away from you for nothing in return.
I saw an interview once with Posh Spice and she said that she had literally never read a book, she said that she just didn't have time. Which is a bizarre excuse from a multi-millionaire who has countless servants to do everything from her and who is always jetting round the world, something which makes a perfect fit with reading. But when I saw that piece I felt truly sad for her cos I think she was telling the truth and it's like there is whole dimension that she doesn't fucking know about and she's missing out on so much... it's like she is walking around with her eyes closed every day and people say "Why don't you try opening them?" and she's "No, I don't think that would be something I would like".
Obviously I'm not gonna compare you to her, you fully know that the dimension is there and you go in it and wander around and then you find a part of that dimension and rope it off to yourself and then you make an interesting point about why you roped that part off and how you did it and so on and it is interesting... but is it better than just going there and having a look at that bit?
It's like... you wouldn't just look at food and arbitrarily just decide that large parts of it, some good bits, some bad etc are banned for you suddenly would you? Oh hang on a minute...
 
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luka

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when i say i dont read nobody takes it at face value becasue everybody knows i do read so given we all know i do read saying i dont read must be expressing something else other than i dont read
 
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luka

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theres recent threads whre i write about reading wordsworth, shakespeare, borges, burroughs, pound, prynne, pynchon, joyce, dickens
 

IdleRich

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whats i like about that quote is that it is about how it might be possible to read. how you might trick yourself into reading. i talked about it in the Borges thread too.
I reckon it must be. Probably bring some financial stuff in, the ultimate incentive. But a trick, like if I read book X you have to pay me one thousand pounds, but if you read book Y then I have to pay you one thousand. So imagine you read it and you finish first and I come to where you are and give you one thousand pounds in cash. That would feel good I reckon. Even though you know that as long as I finish book you're gonna have to give it back very soon.
 

luka

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craner was calling me a cunt for the trick i was using to read wordsworth he said kpunk used the same trick and it was a cunt trick. but i disagree, i think it is a legitimate and useful trick
 

luka

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I think K-Punk would have got to Wordsworth after Acid Communism, and then suddenly The Prelude would've held the key to everything. That's how it works, isn't it? I've discovered this thing and it's the answer to everything everybody has been waiting for, but nobody would've ever known had I not discovered it.
He always had a thirst for new material. He couldn't approach anything without thinking about how he could turn it into a blog post.
 
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luka

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i think reading something becasue i gives you a chance to write about it/boast about reading it publicly (on a blog, on dissensus etc) is a very clever and very effective move and should always be utilised when necessary
 

IdleRich

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when i say i dont read nobody takes it at face value becasue everybody knows i do read so given we all know i do read saying i dont read must be expressing something else other than i dont read
Of course. Obviously I know you read. I'm not attacking you as a non-reader, but I'm taking issue with what you said about Nabakov.
Firstly you said you haven't read him... and I did take that literally.
Secondly you said that you won't read him which I also took literally.
Thirdly you said that the reason that you won't read him was cos you didn't need to cos you could gather everything that you needed to know about him from reading a single line of his... and at this point I assumed that we were moving away from totally literally literal... and yet I think there was enough of a grain of your truth in there for that statement to be a lot more than a joke.
And also, your description of his writing (which I'm not gonna claim you got from wikipedia or whatever) matched pretty well with my own.... which is something I found pretty interesting - and it's the reason why I remembered the whole exchange up to now I guess.
 
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luka

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i dont think rank egoism is anything to be afraid of actually, i really dont. i think it makes the world the better place.
 

luka

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if you want to say Luke your rank egoism is intolerable id have to say well you know im hurt and im very sorry you feel that way but its the only way its possible for me to live its my leading virtue, its who i am.
 

IdleRich

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craner was calling me a cunt for the trick i was using to read wordsworth he said kpunk used the same trick and it was a cunt trick. but i disagree, i think it is a legitimate and useful trick
What was the trick? I honestly don't see how any such trick could be illegitimate. Admittedly I haven't thought about it too hard.
 

luka

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as far as Nabakov goes there are writers and people who i feel are not just running counter to my sensibilities but are actualy The Enemy.
 

luka

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there are some people and some writers that i am afriad of, that i feel bear me ill will, are actively hostile towards me and if i was a slug would pour salt over me. thats why i dont read Nabakov.
 
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