K-Punk

luka

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a man absentmindedly burning his breakfast, reading a magazine while having a shit, lingering in erotic daydreams
 
Plugging into a project that engages the ego you do get through more. If you have a thing to immediately apply any insights you glean. Dissensus does this a bit and certainly sends me off in interesting directions but the stakes aren’t high. Grape juice maybe reads to understand what happened to him, to find some patterns that might explain the trauma. Third reads to punish others on message boards, another good strategy
 

luka

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this is what i mean i think it cant be done, certainly not for me, unless the ego is engaged
 

craner

Beast of Burden
For the record I don't think there is anything wrong with that. It's the same as me having an idea for an essay and then reading about or around it.

K-Punk took it to a different level: everything he encountered had to have a K-take, judged in relation to his aesthetic or, later on, justified or condemned by his categorical order.
 
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IdleRich

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i think reading something becasue i gives you a chance to write about it/boast about reading it publicly (on a blog, on dissensus etc) is a very clever and very effective move and should always be utilised when necessary
Yes up to a point.
I reckon definitely think about it as a blog post, imagine it's gonna be in Vanity Fair, visualise yourself making a self-deprecating but witty speech as you collect your Booker and then bang the host at the after party. You don't even have to put it on a blog afterwards, as long as you can fool yourself into believing that you will do long enough.
I guess that if you are watching something and thinking about what you're gonna write about it afterwards then it will affect the way you experience it. That's unfortunate but it's life I guess... if you are a dj you start listening to music differently. Sad but true.
But I don't see what is wrong with this so-called trick, @craner, what's the problem?
 

luka

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definitely the way it increases alertness and engagement but at the same time deforms or skews the experience
 
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IdleRich

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as far as Nabakov goes there are writers and people who i feel are not just running counter to my sensibilities but are actualy The Enemy.
So this is where I have a problem I think.
Putting someone decisively into such a category requires a deeper understanding than you can have gleaned from the skimming you've described. Basically that is cancelling someone on the basis of a single allegation that you have not been able to independently verify.
 

luka

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its not cancelling exactly. if you dont have this experience then its going to be hard for me to convince you that its valid though
 
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luka

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do you ever meet people or find yourself in social situations that by some act of hostile black magic rob you of all your magical powers? thats when you know you are in the presence of The Enemy.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Plugging into a project that engages the ego you do get through more. If you have a thing to immediately apply any insights you glean. Dissensus does this a bit and certainly sends me off in interesting directions but the stakes aren’t high. Grape juice maybe reads to understand what happened to him, to find some patterns that might explain the trauma. Third reads to punish others on message boards, another good strategy
And you can vary your strategies at various times.
Like cos I enjoyed the Master and Commander film the other day I went to Amazon and I literally thought something along the lines of "I will LIKE this book" and I could just see myself holding it and being sucked into the story and turning the pages quickly and joyously.
And while I was in that same mood I also ordered the next one in the Wheel of Time trilogy (or whatever you call it when there are fifteen books), which I also hope will be a pleasant read. Those books are nice but each one is 1200 pages or so and so by the end of one I'm bored of that world so it tends to be a little while before I get the next one.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
do you ever meet people or find yourself in social situations that by some act of hostile black magic rob you of all your magical powers? thats when you know you are in the presence of The Enemy.
I didn't mean it's cancelling, maybe I wasn't being clear but that was just the analogy. I'm just saying that if it were cancelling then doing it with insufficient knowledge would be like cancelling on an unsubstantiated rumour.
 

luka

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ok but we all make decisions about what we will and wont read if its important to you though send me a Nabakov and i promise to read it within a month of receiving it
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
I found Bend Sinister enjoyable. I've never been able to persevere with Pale Fire or whatever. The surface-level tricksiness is rebarbative, it pushes me out. I always felt Nabokov was writing English as a foreign language in a strangely hostile way, like he was tying it up and prodding it with various implements. In theory this ought to be the kind of thing I like, but the anticipated raptures were not forthcoming.
 
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