Hinduism

william_kent

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that's a picture of bhagavan das from ram das' book be here now.

I would have recognised that if I had got any further than the "I gave a guru a tab of acid and he felt nowt" anecdote in that book...years later it is sitting unloved and unread in a neglected corner of my home...
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
For ages I could truly never remember which one was Russell Brand and which one was Russell Grant. It always used to amuse me somehow to imagine how much (I assume) it would annoy them if they knew.
 

william_kent

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For ages I could truly never remember which one was Russell Brand and which one was Russell Grant. It always used to amuse me somehow to imagine how much (I assume) it would annoy them if they knew.

They're both twats... but Russell Grant is the astrologer.... my favourite story about him is the guy who asked him "can you read palms?", Grant says "yes!", and the guy shows him his palm which has "YOU CUNT!" felt tipped on it...
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Reminds me of my brother's similarly felt tip based poker joke when calling a bluff "My hand says YOU'RE LYING".
But god I hate those fucking clairvoyants or whatever they want to call themselves. Have you seen this guy Tyler Henry I think it is? I Know it's mainly hollywood supercunts with more money than morals and brains put together that's he's ripping off, but presumably he had to sucker a load of littler guys before he was able to get a shot at the big money.... and either way, what kind of person do you have to be to go into people's houses and make up all these lies about their dead relatives and give them advice based on it? You have to be literally a psychopath I think. This reptile is a literal embodiment of evil.

 

catalog

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Sutapa Biswas, ‘Housewives with Steak Knives’, 1985

sutapa+biswas.jpg
 

Woebot

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I would have recognised that if I had got any further than the "I gave a guru a tab of acid and he felt nowt" anecdote in that book...years later it is sitting unloved and unread in a neglected corner of my home...
it's a terrible book. so i wouldn't advise digging it out - though actually please do because i got in trouble (only a tiny bit - tee hee) for slamming it - and would be curious to see if i was actually being unreasonable.

but bhagavan das - from whom ram das "borrowed" the phrase "be here now" is a beautiful dude. interviewed him for my book. ☸️
 

catalog

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i think this was in the british museum's tantra exhibition


like a version of kali isn't it. they're trying to map feminism onto tantra.
yeah she got in trouble for it from some hindus.

i saw it recently in manchester and it's very striking, good strong colours and very big.

she explains it here
and grauny article as well https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2020/aug/21/sutapa-biswas-housewives-with-steak-knives

i love this sort of thing. it's the right way of working things out i reckon
 

Woebot

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yeah she got in trouble for it from some hindus.

i love this sort of thing. it's the right way of working things out i reckon
ok we're talking about the artist here (not the curator of the exhibition...)

i think the artwork/artist is spot on. it's absolutely correct to get that from kali i think. very cool painting 💛

i did enjoy the exhibition very much. an amazing collection of great stuff.

but i thought the underlying message behind the organisation of the exhibition didn't strike to the very simple heart of what Tantra represents. it's not helped by the fact that Tantra means about nine different things - "the weave", "relating to sex", a socio-historical event, the left-hand path, to achieve illumination by passing through attachment rather than asceticism etc.

the clearest way of looking at it is that Tantra essentially refers to accelerated yogic practices - yogas being those disciplines to hook you up to the spiritual high - and Tantra is any practice that is faster than the standard bhakti/jnanan/raja/hatha/nada. it might even be a version of one of those things...

so like EXTREME bhakti with overegged ritual (like the ritual slaughter of goats in the kali ceremonies). the use of [hashish] bhang or psilocybin. sex ritual etc. THAT'S what Tantra means/is.
 

catalog

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i think the exhibition i saw it in was a different one, that sonia boyce curated, about british black/asian 80s artists... https://artuk.org/discover/stories/speech-acts-an-introduction-by-sonia-boyce

i don't really know much about tantra tbh (maybe we need another thread lol...) apart from some of the art is incredible, like all the mandalas and ofc the sexy ones. i've got a book somewhere that i picked up at some 2nd hand place and it's incredible.

i did start reading jan fries' "kali kaula" recently, cos his "visual magick" was very good.

some bits of it are really interesting but it got left cos it's basically a manual and if you're not gonna do the exercises (like me), there seems little point. but you might like it. and he does talk a lot about all the different versions of it.
 

Woebot

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i think the exhibition i saw it in was a different one, that sonia boyce curated, about british black/asian 80s artists... https://artuk.org/discover/stories/speech-acts-an-introduction-by-sonia-boyce
oh sure. cool.

i don't really know much about tantra tbh (maybe we need another thread lol...)
nah this is the right thread
apart from some of the art is incredible, like all the mandalas and ofc the sexy ones. i've got a book somewhere that i picked up at some 2nd hand place and it's incredible.
mandalas - beautiful things often.
 
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