Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
The Extropians were a Silicon Valley cult who were into bodybuilding and AI.
Yeah the Ray Kurzweils and the cryo-immortality and the exhaustive consumption of vitamin supplements. All rather silly, from what I gather.

edit: it all seems unenlightened
 
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WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Patrick Moore being revealed as a cunt damaged my faith in science

He opened up cosmology and didn’t have the overt creepiness of someone like Savile, lurking round hospitals and kids

Besides, for science we can always rely on NASA and pioneers like Professor Brian Cox

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version

Well-known member
I think it suffers from the very rigid conception of who and what a scientist is. The guy experimenting on himself in his garden shed is just a crackpot, but some anodyne graduate being told what to do in a professional laboratory somewhere is a scientist... It's a far cry from Newton sticking a needle behind his eye.

Anyone remember that limo driver who built his own rocket then actually piloted it in an attempt to prove the Earth was flat? It was a funny story and he was clearly a bit odd, but the guy built and flew his own fucking rocket!
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Science was great until it was corrupted by money, now it's just another means of managing decline and asserting control. Thoroughly corrupt. There probably is great science being done, but I doubt it pushes through to prominence very often. Sad.
Lovely Trumpian sign-off there.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Anyone remember that limo driver who built his own rocket then actually piloted it in an attempt to prove the Earth was flat? It was a funny story and he was clearly a bit odd, but the guy built and flew his own fucking rocket!
Decent engineer; terrible scientist. Important difference.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Friend of mine met an engineer who was a Flat Earther a couple of years ago. People are weird.
 

version

Well-known member
I think one solution to the rigidity of scientific thinking is to bring in some more poetic types, gnostic types, etc.
Same with philosophy. The people who combine disciplines can be more interesting than the people who wall themselves off.

I was thinking about making a thread on the pitfalls of specialisation after discussing it with my dad recently then seeing a few people on Twitter making similar points. I remember seeing someone say that was why they eventually left academia, that it led to them sitting in conference rooms with the handful of other people in the world who gave a shit about their very specific field of expertise.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
what does thermodynamic mean?
Entropy is basically a measure of the amount of chaos in a system. When a reaction occurs... ie something happens or changes, entropy will normally increase, certainly not decrease.
Thermodynamics is I guess the study of entropy along with energy (heat) and matter, what can and can't occur etc law of conservation of energy and so on.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Entropy is basically a measure of the amount of chaos in a system. When a reaction occurs... ie something happens or changes, entropy will normally increase, certainly not decrease.
Thermodynamics is I guess the study of entropy along with energy (heat) and matter, what can and can't occur etc law of conservation of energy and so on.
Luka will be reading that with the same expression on his face that Dougal has when Ted is trying to explain that these cows are small, while those cows are far away.
 

luka

Well-known member
i didnt want an explanation for myself i wanted to see if Stan had a command of the subject that allowed him to offer a coherent and lucid
explanation. i wanted to see how much of this 'study' is him bullshitting himself
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
How did I do?

And for the record, as I got into with @IdleRich in an earlier thread, there is a distinct strategy in forcing yourself into a new course, in order for certain movements and dynamics to become instinctual, or to gauge how well they become instinctual.

That is, there will always be some degree of forced interest in these subjects, in order to spend enough time with them for the interests to start feeling natural and thus not having to be forced as much.

As I mentioned with the sheer amount of lecture material I watch. It started out as forcing myself to withstand material I didn;t understand, because my previous experiences has already started to show me that if I can break the ground, then I can start the cultivation.

Rather than immediately expecting the topic to be fruitful, without having broken any ground beforehand.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
And also, if I don't find a subject interesting, I don't always just take that as a sign to move on. In some cases, yes.

In another sense, there is something sublimely vocational about this, albeit in a paradoxically secular way. A process of willing extropy into consciousness with ever greater robustness. I would go as far as to call myself a zealot in this sense, but I am unsure how long I would hold this assertion, due to primarily semantic reservations.
 
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