Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
If there was no internet access period, across the globe, which I find unlikely, abrupt climate change notwithstanding, then the promise of a blockchain is as good as that of the human you are hearing it from, which defeats the whole purpose.
Well that's no different to what would happen to the value of banknotes if central banking systems collapsed entirely. People would either set up their own ad-hoc exchange medium or directly barter goods and services for other goods and services, like they did in Germany in the early 1920s.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
True, but the thing with blockchains, at least some of them, is that their administration is automatic and wouldn't rely on human-led institutions to jumpstart.

Again I'm not familiar with the internet infrastructure and what legal entities administer central points of failure. Could just be that blockchains would de facto be privately centralized around this infrastructure, but not for reasons intrinsic to blockchains.

And from what I gather, a major system shock wouldn't destroy distributed ledgers like Bitcoin, but just pause them. Not to say thats what you were arguing.

If it's possible for pockets of internet to subsist beyond the collapse of a government, even beyond the collapse of large swathes of society, then blockchains could well be better than gold as stores of value.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
If it's possible for pockets of internet to subsist beyond the collapse of a government, even beyond the collapse of large swathes of society, then blockchains could well be better than gold as stores of value.
And could still even function as a currency.
 
I'm less sure about that, given how much Bitcoin alone has already been deified over the last decade. If its about social establishment, it may not matter if its matter.

If we're talking about no-electrical-grid economy, value on a blockchain would become something of a promissory reserve, with the current balance sheet immortalizing the current accounts. Depends on how resilient the internet would be to a major system shock though. Really I don't know the technical stuff there.

If there was no internet access period, across the globe, which I find unlikely, abrupt climate change notwithstanding, then the promise of a blockchain is as good as that of the human you are hearing it from, which defeats the whole purpose.
There's already a satellite node, I think. As long as there's anything like an internet, anywhere, there'll be bitcoin.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Yeah low key I think blockchains have already firmly outpaced any potential human intermediaries, at least to such an extent that disrupting Bitcoin would cost more than it would be worth, which seems to be the central axiom of blockchain security.
 

version

Well-known member
I saw an article yesterday trying to link farmers' markets to fascism and someone in the replies predicted in the next few years there'll be a push to present anything decentralised as a threat.
 

woops

is not like other people
I saw an article yesterday trying to link farmers' markets to fascism and someone in the replies predicted in the next few years there'll be a push to present anything decentralised as a threat.
anything decentralised is a threat, good definition of threat. similarly the centre is a threat
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I saw an article yesterday trying to link farmers' markets to fascism and someone in the replies predicted in the next few years there'll be a push to present anything decentralised as a threat.
Well don't leave us hanging! What's the alleged link between farmers markets and fascism?!
 

mixed_biscuits

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The Sunday Times links yoga to fascism today in order to skewer contrarian wellness gurus (yet again, non-mainstream = 'fascist') - it's no better than teenagers calling anything they don't like 'gay'.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
The Sunday Times links yoga to fascism today in order to skewer contrarian wellness gurus (yet again, non-mainstream = 'fascist') - it's no better than teenagers calling anything they don't like 'gay'.
Except there is an extensively documented relationship between new-age beliefs and white supremacism, which goes back to the 19th century and was one of the major influences on Nazism, and which is obviously alive and well today.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Also fascists like Julius Evola were well into yoga.

There are links with the far right and yoga types in movements like Qanon also.

Which is not to say that yoga is in itself a far right thing.

Imagine that the Venn diagram of “contrarian wellness gurus” (lol) and fascism is quite intriguing though.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
There's nothing inherently fascist about runes, but some dudes in quasi-military uniforms that include armbands with runes on them are making a pretty unambiguous statement about their ideology.
 
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