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Mr. Tea

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Meanwhile our Chief Medical Officer overrides the advice of the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation and recommends experimental vaccination of children to 12 yrs old - not for any Covid health benefit but because pupils may miss out on school because of arbitrary gvt rules on school attendance.
Children of 12 tend to live with people who are older than they are, don't they.
 

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You've amply demonstrated that your estimations of the health risks from these vaccines are greater than what they actually are, by several orders of magnitude.
If they vaccinate all the kids, more will die from the vax than they would have from Covid...even if *every single one* of them had contracted the disease. The Covid IFR for them is roughly 2 in a million.
 

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Given the government's love of military metaphors for the fight against Covid, maybe children should become more involved in frontline warfare, serving similarly as a human barricade.
 

Mr. Tea

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Large-scale clinical trials for covid-19 vaccines began well over a year ago. Where are all the long-term vaccine-harmed people, that you believe exist? Show me the evidence.
 

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Large-scale clinical trials for covid-19 vaccines began well over a year ago. Where are all the long-term vaccine-harmed people, that you believe exist? Show me the evidence.
That this vaccination programme has been unprecedently harmful was brought up in the Commons only a few days ago, you doofus.
 

Mr. Tea

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If they vaccinate all the kids, more will die from the vax than they would have from Covid...even if *every single one* of them had contracted the disease. The Covid IFR for them is roughly 2 in a million.
You really are the ultimate stuck record, aren't you?

There is no reason to think any children would be "killed by the vaccine".

You are, yet again, ignoring the possible negative health outcomes other than death.

And you're ignoring the point I've just made about kids acting as vectors of the virus with respect to older, and therefore vulnerable, people, i.e. their parents/grandparents.
 

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You really are the ultimate stuck record, aren't you?

There is no reason to think any children would be "killed by the vaccine".

You are, yet again, ignoring the possible negative health outcomes other than death.

And you're ignoring the point I've just made about kids acting as vectors of the virus with respect to older, and therefore vulnerable, people, i.e. their parents/grandparents.
You can't use them as a buffer - it's immoral.

The adults should start using the effective treatments that already exist if they're not confident in the vaccines.

A good reason to think that children would be killed by the vax is because a) adults have already been killed by them and b) children have already been killed by them
 

Mr. Tea

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That this vaccination programme has been unprecedently harmful was brought up in the Commons only a few days ago, you doofus.
Well surely you'll be so kind as to provide a link?

The fact it was "brought up in the Commons" is hardly a gold standard for evidence. The Right Honourable Sir Walter Backbench can "bring up" the pressing issue of dragon attacks in his constituency if he wishes to.
 

Mr. Tea

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A good reason to think that children would be killed by the vax is because a) adults have already been killed by them and b) children have already been killed by them
You're arguing that children should not be given vaccines- implying they *haven't* already been given vaccines, which is my understanding - and using, as an argument, the fact that children have allegedly been killed by vaccines - vaccines they haven't been given yet... :unsure:
 

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You're arguing that children should not be given vaccines- implying they *haven't* already been given vaccines, which is my understanding - and using, as an argument, the fact that children have allegedly been killed by vaccines - vaccines they haven't been given yet... :unsure:
Elsewhere
 

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The JCVI recommended against vaccinating children because of the poor cost:benefit for them, only for the gvt to shift the balance by introducing extra costs, which the gvt itself controls.
 

Mr. Tea

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It's funny, you right-wing anti-vaxx cultists are always banging on about the importance of "not living in fear", whereas what you're actually doing is shitting your knickers over an imaginary worst-case scenario.
 
You've amply demonstrated that your estimations of the health risks from these vaccines are greater than what they actually are, by several orders of magnitude.
Well, first off, in no way are these vaccines. They're a quick fix, a therapy, that's losing potency at scary rate here and in Israel. Deaths this year are 8 to 10x same time last year. Maybe something is making it worse.
 
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