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Slothrop

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Ah, of course. They love lockdowns so much that they railroaded through the approval of a dodgy and ineffective vaccine just to give them an excuse not to have any more lockdowns.
 

Slothrop

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This is some serious 5-D chess for a bunch of people who don't normally give the impression of being able to tie their shoelaces without assistance.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Get with the program: the point of the vaccines is to introduce digital ID/social credit (which afaik is not very libertarian at all)...that's why any halfway effective treatments have been blocked from the get-go.

If you're worried about your personal role in plumping the death stats, keep yourself out of others' way and take an LFT every day.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Amusing how blithely the self-regarding component of the middle class equates lockdowns with nothing worse than a shut pub - comically out of touch.
 

Slothrop

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Incidentally, sensible Sweden is doing tickety-boo whilst the rest of the Scandies catch up in excess deaths.

Smooth pivot from "lockdowns don't make any difference, look at Sweden" to "look, similar countries that did lock down are catching up with Sweden in excess deaths", I almost didn't notice that.
 

Mr. Tea

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Well, for example, the claimed efficacy of the Pfizer jab is 95%. The actual efficacy quickly plummets to <40%, as Israel has demonstrated.
In this country, half the population (that's total, not adult) had been fully vaccinated by the halfway point of the year, and in the same period the fully vaccinated accounted for 1.2% of covid deaths. And that includes people who'd been infected before they got their jabs.

 

mixed_biscuits

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Smooth pivot from "lockdowns don't make any difference, look at Sweden" to "look, similar countries that did lock down are catching up with Sweden in excess deaths", I almost didn't notice that.
The Swedish problem was their care home strategy - precious little to do with wider lockdowns.
 

mixed_biscuits

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In this country, half the population (that's total, not adult) had been fully vaccinated by the halfway point of the year, and in the same period the fully vaccinated accounted for 1.2% of covid deaths. And that includes people who'd been infected before they got their jabs.

Silly stat: we're way past the first half of the year.
 

Slothrop

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In this country, half the population (that's total, not adult) had been fully vaccinated by the halfway point of the year, and in the same period the fully vaccinated accounted for 1.2% of covid deaths.
1.2% of people getting hit by buses after testing positive, you mean.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
It goes without saying that in a country where everyone is vaccinated, vaccinated people will make up 100% of death statistics, even if the vaccine is 99% effective. But the overall death rate will then be 1% of what it would otherwise be.
 

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