Leo

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Side note: it's incredible how much digital decay happens even in the span of a year. The first page of this thread is already missing images, videos.

also, at what point does that crew you highlighted become the old guard, supplanted by the next wave of mafiosos? or has it already happened?
 

Leo

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crypto is related but also a separate thing. this thread started as a scene report on a clique of people mostly involved in the arts, publishing, film, writing, podcasting. that's more what I'm talking about.
 

sus

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also, at what point does that crew you highlighted become the old guard, supplanted by the next wave of mafiosos? or has it already happened?
It sorta has actually! People call the new scene "post-Red Scare." And the Kaitlin Phillips, N+1 literary scene that was so dominant in the mid-2010s is waning out, they're in their mid-30s now.
 

sus

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And my impression is even the "Vibe Shift" itself is decaying. The -cellectual Instagram accounts are inactive or deactivated. The Angelicism dispatches have less energy. Paul (From Bible)'s Twitter flickers between life and death. Heavy Traffic Mag 404s as of last week.

From Dean K's latest Spike Mag dispatch:
In midsummer, I went to a party where a friend told me I wouldn’t be a meme for long and that I would be sad when it was over, and he was right, and now that it’s gone I long for those balmy paranoid summer nights, and every meme is a blessing, really.
 

WashYourHands

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spot-on summation. the question is: doesn't the shallowness, or hollowness, of it all eventually get a little tiring and depressing? isn't there the eventual creep of emptiness, the wear of an entertaining shell game for people privileged enough to be able to indulge without worrying about real life? pure belief and suspended reason have led some dreamers to come up with amazing discoveries that change the world, but most of it, as catalog says, amounts to party gossip (which is fine for what is, but hardly something to base one's life around).

there's no there there.

 
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catalog

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yeah i remember that quote from the david keenan book - he explained why and i thought it was quite good, his explanation
 

sus

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I think that good party reports are basically worldbuilding, where you selectively curate reality & write the narrative of the scene, make it a "thing," pull together a constellation of signifiers (proper & improper nouns). If a scene flourishes and no one's there to write about it, did it ever really exist?
 

Leo

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I think that good party reports are basically worldbuilding, where you selectively curate reality & write the narrative of the scene, make it a "thing," pull together a constellation of signifiers (proper & improper nouns). If a scene flourishes and no one's there to write about it, did it ever really exist?

lots of music scenes over the years were created in this way, based on either style (signifiers) or geography. just need someone to package it. marketing, brand building.
 

IdleRich

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It's like cryptocurrency. Network effects. Value built on memes. The home range of hyperstition. No grounding, only pure belief. Suspended reason. A cathedral in the sky. Roadrunner falls when roadrunner looks down. These are beautiful things.
All currency really, not just crypto.
 
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wektor

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The -cellectual Instagram accounts are inactive or deactivated.
Well the american wave, yes, english scene which would seem younger perhaps sprang off quite effectively and eventually became its own thing, getting rid of the suffix etc also using it's own formats.
Interestingly enough the account that recently got popular in Poland (yes you could say we are behind) does seem to directly reference only the english spinoff, using same formats and slang equivalents, completely omitting the us lineage.
 
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IdleRich

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Also important to point out that we already have massive economies built on this second-order, ungrounded, "it's valuable if other people find it valuable" mentality. A lot of sexual fitness, runaway effects; the value of gold above and beyond its material qualities; the fashion world.
I was gonna say, this is not really a new phenomenon. Only its scale and the extent to which it permeates everything... though I think we've always had to consider intangibles of this nature and live accordingly.
 
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sus

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Well the american wave, yes, english scene which would seem younger perhaps sprang off quite effectively and eventually became its own thing, getting rid of the suffix etc also using it's own formats.
Interestingly enough the account that recently got popular in Poland (yes you could say we are behind) does seem to directly reference only the english spinoff, using same formats and slang equivalents, completely omitting the us lineage.
Tell more! I know nothing about this. Give us some accounts and background info!
 
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