wild greens

Well-known member
I have used AR for work, summer of 2019, it wasn't a very good experience frankly

I would assume it is much more fluid now but as proof of concept it wasn't convincing
 

catalog

Well-known member
It's definitely happening no question. But maybe not for 20 years cos the VR glasses are a pain in the arse and the AR needs too much computing power
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
It's definitely happening no question. But maybe not for 20 years cos the VR glasses are a pain in the arse and the AR needs too much computing power
I agree that a full on inhabitable virtual reality is a ways away. In that case, it would need to be something that you work in, hang out in, engage in economic activity in, etc. Seems, yeah, at least a couple decades away before we enter such a full-on stage of things.

But I don't think VR/AR glasses are really necessary for this to take hold. Really its already taken hold, just at a fetal, low-resolution stage of things.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
thinking in terms as simplistic as this isn't going to get us very far is it
Actually, thinking in such simplistic, i.e. unambiguous, terms might be exactly what gets us this far, insofar as computers need unambiguous instruction and the future of our society largely depends on how well we can instruct computers.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Not that simplistic necessarily means unambiguous, but systematic thinking is very conducive to programming.
 

luka

Well-known member
Actually, thinking in such simplistic, i.e. unambiguous, terms might be exactly what gets us this far, insofar as computers need unambiguous instruction and the future of our society largely depends on how well we can instruct computers.
i would say, in all seriousness, that no coder should ever be allowed to think about society
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Ignoring the mass hypotheticals in this thread and the "this will happen," is it something anyone really wants?
It seems clear to me that plenty of people want this, but I'm inclined to think its a generational thing, to a degree. Too confusing for non digital natives, I suspect. And I'm not even a proper digital native. Imagine learning your first language online.
 

luka

Well-known member
they 'want' it in the way they 'want' the new marvel movie, or the buffet options they pile on their plates. they want it cos its on offer. but what about the things that aren't on offer? perhaps they are a great deal more interesting.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Imagine learning your first language online.
Imagine learning to socialize online. Imagine learning to save money in terms of crypto. Imagine considering the digital world not as auxiliary to the physical world, but the physical as merely the infrastructure of the digital.
 

luka

Well-known member
none of these things are terribly interesting to imagine really. computers are actualy very boring
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
behind what exactly? these are ideas that predate my birth by decades
Well I'm not claiming you are actually unaware of it, just implying that these are developments that have already commenced, so approval is moot, albeit significant merely as an indication of your values.
 

luka

Well-known member
Well I'm not claiming you are actually unaware of it, just implying that these are developments that have already commenced, so approval is moot, albeit significant merely as an indication of your values.
thats exactly what im saying. this is the problem. that there is top-down administration of an agenda which is drawn up without consulting me in any way
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
they 'want' it in the way they 'want' the new marvel movie, or the buffet options they pile on their plates. they want it cos its on offer. but what about the things that aren't on offer? perhaps they are a great deal more interesting.
I do think some of the most interesting things aren't on offer here, namely the pursuit of deeper degrees of enlightenment. That is one thing I won't doggedly advocate blockchain for.

What I'm talking about will radically overhaul major portions of reality and society, but they won't offer everything, nor even many of the most important things, in my opinion.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
thats exactly what im saying. this is the problem. that there is top-down administration of an agenda which is drawn up without consulting me in any way
I don't believe, say, Bitcoin was an intel operation, so not all of it is top-down. And to be clear, Bitcoin, as crude as it may seem compared to other blockchains, was one of the most important things to happen in the last 15 years, or at least that may prove to be the established opinion in hindsight.

Even if it, or the likes thereof, was top-down, there's a good chance not all of the higher-ups knew about it, nor congress especially.
 
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