The Meaning of South Park

luka

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GTA is a British satire of America, strictly speaking, like Robocop or Starship Troopers is a Euro satire of America
 

shakahislop

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catchy jokes about Space AIDS (that was in south park right?) - running over hare krishnas and leaving a cool bloody skidmark - a tune about killing your wife who you name in the track, with a super accessible dido sample - 'i feel like me and Taylor might still have sex, i made that bitch famous' - trump's disabled reporter impression

all seem to be part of a common thing to me. going to call it a continuum and write a book about it
 

shakahislop

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big working class audiences for all of those as well (perhaps kanye excepted). think i'm onto a winner here, someone give me the number for zero books
 

luka

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didnt Corpsey say all those things earlier in the thread though? not saying you shouldnt steal his ideas and monetise them obviously, i think you should.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
One thing though.... South Park changed their mind on Climate Change and did an apology episode taking the piss out of the one they made before, which is quite a fundamental difference in that Trump will NEVER give a speech saying "Oh actually Biden won the election by miles and I tell lies all the time".
 

shakahislop

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didnt Corpsey say all those things earlier in the thread though? not saying you shouldnt steal his ideas and monetise them obviously, i think you should.
yeah he said something like that but that was a year ago, and i definitely thought this at least eighteen months ago
 

shakahislop

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One thing though.... South Park changed their mind on Climate Change and did an apology episode taking the piss out of the one they made before, which is quite a fundamental difference in that Trump will NEVER give a speech saying "Oh actually Biden won the election by miles and I tell lies all the time".
complete speculation as i know nothing about the people that made it or how it's even the same lads anymore, but at a guess they have probably both matured in a normal way and become pretty rich, hang out a lot more with filmmakers, probably live in LA or a nice coastal city, have quite a nice life and and so on, and therefore that resentment-fuelled 'fuck you' that is part of the pudding when discussing the Hislop Continuum probably isn't part of their psyche by this point, whereas Trump is a rarity personality-wise, totally not normal, not subject to the normal progression
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah something like that I guess... what I'm interested in here is not their position on climate change per se but just the fact that they were willing and able to admit that they were wrong.

As for the money thing... Jackass could also be on this list and, a while back, Corpsey said something about how their comeback was a bit sad and just showed that they had lost their vitality. How is it that South Park are still deemed vital (ok popular) enough to sign a deal which I reckon will surely make them the most financially successful conedians of all time?
 

woops

is not like other people
Yeah something like that I guess... what I'm interested in here is not their position on climate change per se but just the fact that they were willing and able to admit that they were wrong.

As for the money thing... Jackass could also be on this list and, a while back, Corpsey said something about how their comeback was a bit sad and just showed that they had lost their vitality. How is it that South Park are still deemed vital (ok popular) enough to sign a deal which I reckon will surely make them the most financially successful conedians of all time?
i think the audience hasn't changed but the south park guys made cartoon characters cripple their minds, souls and penises, but the jackass guys did it to themselves and now can only drool
 

version

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think there's some kind of strand, in terms of their emotional resonance, running through south park, GTA, eminem, kanye and trump. something about the way the part of the attraction with all of them was the shock value, willingly offensive. and actually with the exception of kanye, the aesthetic ugliness of them all (i guess GTA is debatable with the later games). quite a range of mediums but working in the same way on some level, though obviously beyond this common strand they're all doing multiple other things at the same time.

also all american things that gained traction in the UK to various extents, but i do think like all this stuff, we do experience them as imports and therefore they are a bit more distanced than they are for americans
You can chuck 'Attitude Era' WWF in there too.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
i think the audience hasn't changed but the south park guys made cartoon characters cripple their minds, souls and penises, but the jackass guys did it to themselves and now can only drool
Yeah, obviously aging doesn't affect a cartoon in the same way as people, but I think there is more than that going on. It's no that they are just hanging around, they're getting almost a billion fucking dollars.
 
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