"it was ok i suppose" : a non reaction to "polarazing" things

version

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If you genuinely believe or enjoy or something then it probably comes through, but you almost have to think your way to that point now as you have to hack away at thickets of ideology and theory and whatever else that's been dumped in layers on top of how you actually feel.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
That's because they're trying to think their way out of a problem which requires feeling. It's like what Craner says about French cinema.
Well said, and this is made even more difficult in some cases when you try to think your way into feeling.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Like trying to understand feeling in theoretical terms, rather than just releasing the cerebral reins altogether, in order to breathe. Deneuroticization.
 

version

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Corpsey mentioned those memes about "types of guy" before. That stuff is burned into a lot of people's brains now. That liking this or that makes you a certain kind of person that you may or may not want to be seen as.
 

version

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"Emotion has dictated the course and detail of my book, and in emotional writing one arrives at the unpredictable which can be of more value, since its sources are deeper, than the products of the intellectual method."
-- Joyce on 'Ulysses'​
 

craner

Beast of Burden
"Emotion has dictated the course and detail of my book, and in emotional writing one arrives at the unpredictable which can be of more value, since its sources are deeper, than the products of the intellectual method."
-- Joyce on 'Ulysses'​

What a wuss
 

version

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Everything's reduced to game pieces to move around on a whim when it all becomes arbitrary. This person says they like this, so I've decided in this moment I dislike it because it will wind them up or make people laugh. Sometimes it's fun, sometimes it feels hollow.

I guess this is why something like Jan. 6 feels so strange. It's this supposedly hugely significant event, but a handful of people were directly involved in it and it has absolutely no weight if your engagement with it is the same rolling news, memes and whatever as everything else. It could be a plane crash somewhere, a celebrity death, whatever. It's just "content" and something to talk about and act out little routines around.

That's one of the things that most irritates me about seeing a lot of arguments online. the point seems to be the arguing rather than whatever's being argued. Everyone reads things as disingenuously as possible and pretends they don't get the point in order to pursue the argument and have more ammo.
 

version

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This is why those shit Netflix documentaries seem to be successful, but it doesn't matter if they're any good. You just need enough people watching at the same time that it becomes a thing to have an opinion on and talk around.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Actually the recent Netflix documentary on black holes and the event horizon telescope was quite good, in my opinion. But maybe you had other ones in mind.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Oh he's making a lesbian joke that is very good, yes, there is a lesbian sex scene in the middle, very funny Craner

It's interesting to me that some time in the 90s or possibly earlier they made a rule that real men had to love watching girls have sex with each other.

Whatever

I thought Mulholland Drive captured very well this private world that for some brief period - if we accept it as real - is only for these two people, their own private, safe, magical Narnia, and the fact that the only people in it are women is just an extra barrier to my entry, which ultimately makes it more enticing. To me watching that film, that bit was the most perfect capturing of a thing that I could only long for and never experience because the simple fact of being me locked me out of it. I'm not articulating this very well but whatever it is I'm trying to describe is something I'd never been shown as blatantly or powerfully as that before.
 
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IdleRich

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As for the main point... I remember once when I was about sixteen someone asked me if they thought they would like a song or film or whatever and I said "It's one of those ones, you will either love it or hate it... " and then it struck me that I had been sucked into this lie by cliche and convention and I realised I had to finish the sentence by saying "... or you might think it's ok, or quite good in some bits and not in others... actually there are loads of ways you might react to it".
I guess what I realised then was that most things are ok but we're sort of supposed to pretend that nothing specific is... while acknowledging that everything is in general.
 
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craner

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As for the main point... I remember once when I was about sixteen someone asked me if they thought they would like a song or film or whatever and I said "It's one of those ones, you will either love it or hate it... " and then it struck me that I had been sucked into this lie by cliche and convention and I realised I had to finish the sentence by saying "... or you might think it's ok, or quite good in some bits and not in others... actually there are loads of ways you might react to it".
I guess what I realised then was that most things are ok but we're sort of supposed to pretend that nothing specific is... while acknowledging that everything is in general.

This sounds like a depressing way to live
 
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