"it was ok i suppose" : a non reaction to "polarazing" things

luka

Well-known member
It's tricky to really nail it down, in some ways it's more telling to get people's off the cuff ideas of what makes something great, before they get self conscious and try and be clever
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
It's tricky to really nail it down, in some ways it's more telling to get people's off the cuff ideas of what makes something great, before they get self conscious and try and be clever
Yeah I do think there is some degree of truth that is lost as we have more time to intellectually refine our opinions.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Yeah I think thats one of the central tasks of philosophy: generalizing in ways that involve the minimal crumbling of particular truths, ideally with minimal use of arcane language (but we can all appreciate how hard that is).
 

luka

Well-known member
Yeah I think thats one of the central tasks of philosophy: generalizing in ways that involve the minimal crumbling of particular truths, ideally with minimal use of arcane language (but we can all appreciate how hard that is).
While avoiding something some general and abstract it's not saying anything any more
 

luka

Well-known member
I was probably saying something like if they're not careful they end up with an abstract formulation which is internally coherent but doesn't map onto experience in any useful way
 

luka

Well-known member
I wonder if Webbie will like our work or if he's still going to be disappointed in us
 

luka

Well-known member
I hope he likes it. One of my number one motivations in life is a desire to be liked and to win approval. Even if I have some perverse and self defeating rules about how I'm allowed to go about it etc
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I was probably saying something like if they're not careful they end up with an abstract formulation which is internally coherent but doesn't map onto experience in any useful way
Yeah I think this is an occupational hazard here, the cost of doing business, etc.

Something to be honed and carved away, as much as possible.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I think the hazard is the inclination to get swept up in the semantics and conceptual nuance, which can be a necessary venture in some cases, but it threatens to derail the actual task of communicating these ideas.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
So on one hand we have experimentation and elaboration in technical and nuanced terms, and on the other hand we have Occam's Razor and the obligation to be clear and simple.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
It makes me aloof in many cases, unable to even hear other people in the more extreme cases, too compelled to engineer certain nuances.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Yeah thats totally reasonable to me, although obviously I'm inclined otherwise in many cases. Sometimes I just ignore the gravity of actually having to communicate with others, and just go with the singular flow of experimental conceptual elaboration.

It yields a lot of junk, but also some gold nuggets occasionally.
 
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