wild greens

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I was in the middle of attempting to relearn which clothes I wore, how I pursued sex, what drugs I took and with whom, what music I danced to and where

Find the idea of "learning" these things so depressing tbh
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
"Normcore went viral but didn't make him any money" - this is tragic, it's like those guys who made the amen break or something else that was sampled countless times and saw no money at all. Except shit and pointless.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
in which he would dissect what was percolating (information he deemed so valuable it would require purchasing a $600 annual subscription to access. Now, a year’s subscription is more in line with the market standard of $50). Half a year later, he still can’t quite figure it out. (Delta and Omicron slowed down the shift some, a lucky break for those of us who want a second chance to avoid getting left behind.)
So he wanted people to pay him six hundred dollars to say "I don't really know what's happening" and somehow it didn't work out. Maybe the trend is that people have stopped paying attention to Nathan Barleyesque dickheads?
 

Leo

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presumably he was on top of things (ie, coining normcore) back when he was charging $600/year, but he's at a lost to figure out today's vibe. poor guy.

it's all so bullshit, but consultants of all types (business, lifestyle, trend forecasters) have made careers out of this type of thing forever. beats working for a living!
 

shakahislop

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stuff like this is just people trying to make sense of the chaos isn't it. putting a vocabulary and narrative onto small things that we see every day.
 

Clinamenic

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stuff like this is just people trying to make sense of the chaos isn't it. putting a vocabulary and narrative onto small things that we see every day.
Partially, but its also partially something long the lines of hyperstition or the tinkerbell effect, whereby people labeling things and imposing narratives actually reifies the narrative to some extent.

Like if someone reads that such and such is a trend right now, from a source they consider insightful, they will then treat such and such as being that much closer to the cultural fitness, and favor those who perform well accordingly.
 

Clinamenic

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And those whose performance is continually considered as being in keeping with the shifting vibe, are those who generally command extraordinary cultural influence.
 

Clinamenic

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Although I suspect there are few who have been able to preserve such a command through any major vibe shift. You'd need to be very dexterous, psychologically, to do so. In a way, it would constitute a form of culturally operationalized schizosis.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
And make some money out of it let's not forget.
To me this is where the business model seems to have a problem. Some people don't give a flying fuck about this sort of thing, they know nothing about it and don't care - and so they won't spend any money on catching up. And there are some people who think that being plugged into trends is of the utmost importance. They care about trends - what people are wearing and what they are doing - and more than that, they want to know what the trends mean, why one is prevailing over another and so on. But people who care about this are surely gonna be deeply enmeshed already, they will already have their nose to the ground and ear to the wall or whatever... my feeling is that anyone cares to that degree about being on the bleeding edge of trends will have lots of knowledge and their own opinions too. It seems to my mind that such a person who actually went and paid for someone to do this work problem would be admitting that they have failed.

TLDR - some people don't know and don't care, some people do care so they already know; where are the people who are gonna pay for this type of information?
 

shakahislop

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Give us the report... What kind of herd animals are you seeing? What kinds of mating rituals are you noticing?
i did notice a few quite attractive girls and boys. nothing over and above a standard evening in that part of town though. obviously i didn't talk to any of them, i'm not a psycho

To me this is where the business model seems to have a problem. Some people don't give a flying fuck about this sort of thing, they know nothing about it and don't care - and so they won't spend any money on catching up. And there are some people who think that being plugged into trends is of the utmost importance. They care about trends - what people are wearing and what they are doing - and more than that, they want to know what the trends mean, why one is prevailing over another and so on. But people who care about this are surely gonna be deeply enmeshed already, they will already have their nose to the ground and ear to the wall or whatever... my feeling is that anyone cares to that degree about being on the bleeding edge of trends will have lots of knowledge and their own opinions too. It seems to my mind that such a person who actually went and paid for someone to do this work problem would be admitting that they have failed.

TLDR - some people don't know and don't care, some people do care so they already know; where are the people who are gonna pay for this type of information?
i'm amazed and to be honest doubtful that anyone actually pays for this kind of information, it's paying for theory basically. i mean i get that the guys who run Nike or whatever are very interested in figuring out what's going to be popular soon. but i'm not very convinced that they'd pay for this kind of terminology. actual sales data for sure coz you can do a lot with that. but putting a name on it all, no.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Actually, to answer my own question, I suppose it's probably aimed at businesses rather than individuals isn't it? People selling clothes or running bars which aren't in themselves as an entity manoeuvrable and hip enough to hook the fish of cool out of the river of trends flowing by them. I can imagine the manger of such a place feelingl that they need to know what's going to be cool - and six hundred dollars doesn't sound like such a stupid amount when it comes out of a business account as it did when I was imagining some hipster artist in their garret (or whatever the on-trend equivalent is these days) whopping it out to discover what length their fringe should be for the next three hours.
Edit; bit of a cross post there.
 
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