forclosure

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You appear to live in a constant state of surprise though.
i mean this is mean to be a place where people assess the "bleeding edge" of music and culture right? you've been more on it in terms of following the artists, particular riddims that stand out so something like this regardless of whether i dislike Charlie Sloth or not should be see as like a notable moment u zeemi?
 

forclosure

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anyways in other news Dancehall mag still backlash piling on https://www.dancehallmag.com/2022/0...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

dunno what it is but something about the spread of drill and trap has cause serious outbreak with people over what these sounds/styles should be called, the idea of influence/immitation and whether these things should have their own name or be accpeted as part of the traditional lineage
 

Benny Bunter

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I did have a flick through that video but none of them are particularly good, Jashii especially is really overrated and boring to me and he's probably the biggest name here. Lifestyle Riddim towards the end there is a classic but at least 2 years old now. Maybe it is a 'moment' of sorts but it's hard to imagine it having much impact. I would definitely watch a 6ixx collective sesh if such a thing existed.

These are better I suppose, but still not really my thing, I prefer the records.
 

Benny Bunter

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Trap × Chop = Chap. Bit naff innit? Can't imagine the artists themselves getting behind something like that, especially as it's being handed down to them by dancehall conservatives.
 

forclosure

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Trap × Chop = Chap. Bit naff innit? Can't imagine the artists themselves getting behind something like that, especially as it's being handed down to them by dancehall conservatives.
oh yeah course they'd rather come up with somethin themselves
 

shakahislop

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what's the general consensus on Spice? she seems to be on half the tracks I like and i assume she's massive. also interesting in that she's female, is always talking about having sex, pretty explicit and has a way with a hook.
 

shakahislop

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Spice is good i like her

Ramping Shop is an all timer
yeah i really like her. romping shop is great, except that there's a straight-up homophobic line right at the start, you can't miss it (as opposed to all the stuff in patois or that's a bit more subtle that i probably miss entirely), and i always hope that no-one hears it when i bike around with it on.

that line 'i can't stop fucking you' i find incredibly expressive, i'm not joking, they really tap into something there, it's better than anything in MoMA
 

forclosure

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yeah i really like her. romping shop is great, except that there's a straight-up homophobic line right at the start, you can't miss it (as opposed to all the stuff in patois or that's a bit more subtle that i probably miss entirely), and i always hope that no-one hears it when i bike around with it on.

that line 'i can't stop fucking you' i find incredibly expressive, i'm not joking, they really tap into something there, it's better than anything in MoMA
Shaka the fact that you're so taken aback by that one line and posit that there must be some kind of "sublte" homophobia in dancehall really speaks to me how green you are when it comes to this genre of music

it's deeply funny to me
 

forclosure

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It reminds me of when Odd Future blew up and certain people were aghast at alot of the content of their lyrics which just said to people like me that either they honestly hadn't heard that kind of thing or they purposfuly went out of their way to try and avoid rap with content like that
 

shakahislop

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Shaka the fact that you're so taken aback by that one line and posit that there must be some kind of "sublte" homophobia in dancehall really speaks to me how green you are when it comes to this genre of music

it's deeply funny to me
it's not that i'm taken aback by it exactly. it's just that i like the tune and it's annoying to have it there upfront, because i can't exactly play it when mates are around can i.
 

forclosure

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it's not that i'm taken aback by it exactly. it's just that i like the tune and it's annoying to have it there upfront, because i can't exactly play it when mates are around can i.
well if that's the case don't bother going back to the 90s/2000s stuff that still tends to be the most popular but you're gonna run into alot of songs that you can't play around your mates and its all that upfront.

@shakahislop i'm not saying its right and the music has gotten away from that for a long time now, but this is just what it is
 

forclosure

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i mean i was showing 3 friends of mine Chi Chi man by TOK explaining the lyrics and like even despite their surprise and objections they thought the tune was great

Frenzy by Sanchez is a tune i've heard at family get togethers and he's singing how "we nuh wan no chi chi man bow yah"
 
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forclosure

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but then again @shakahislop i have to ask you do your mates even understand patwa cause all even now i've come across people one or two of them who live in Britian who say that they have no idea what people are saying

and its a funny thing where you see people enjoying a tune because of the riddim but as far as the lyrics is going on they don't know what's being said but you do and it feels like you're tapped into a hidden frequency
 
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