Mr. Tea

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Approving bad things as long as they're against bad people is how we end up hacking each other to bits with machetes and feeling good about it
So are you saying that if Zelenskyy keeps up his deplorable Russophobic rhetoric, Russia might justifiably be quite miffed and be forced to take some sort of action against Ukraine?
 

mixed_biscuits

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So are you saying that if Zelenskyy keeps up his deplorable Russophobic rhetoric, Russia might justifiably be quite miffed and be forced to take some sort of action against Ukraine?
I'm saying that if we dropped an atomic bomb on Moscow tomorrow, the majority of the public would approve because they have been conditioned to do so
 

Leo

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Yep, an excerpt from his interview with him brought right to the fore of the programme

I believe you, but I have to think he meant the hate is for Putin and military leadership, right? Zelenskyy has made direct pleas to the Russian people, trying to convince them to condemn the actions of their leaders.

also, in a war, it's not really odd to say you hate the opponent's military leaders, is it?
 

Mr. Tea

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Russia's flagship of the Black Sea fleet has been sunk.


The Ukrainians have taken credit for holing it with missiles while the Russians claim this isn't true, and that there was an explosion following a fire in an ammunition hold. Why a fire should spontaneously start on a battleship is unclear to me, though. If the Russian story is true, then it doesn't say much for the state the ship must have been allowed to fall into.

Plus morale is so low, and corruption and mutiny so widespread, that I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was sabotage.
 
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mixed_biscuits

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If there's one entity that's "whipping up Russophobia", then it's Russia, and its military in particular.
Zelenskyy has also banned all the left-wing or neutral parties, let alone those supported by the large minority of citizens sympathetic to Russia
 

Mr. Tea

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Zelenskyy has also banned all the left-wing or neutral parties, let alone those supported by the large minority of citizens sympathetic to Russia
Sigh, another (wilful?) misunderstanding. He's suspended pro-Russian parties, for fairly obvious reasons. Some of those parties call themselves "socialists", but then, so did the Nazis.

Moreover, this is pretty blatant concern-trolling, since you obviously don't care about left-wing parties anywhere, let alone in Ukraine.
 

mixed_biscuits

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Sigh, another (wilful?) misunderstanding. He's suspended pro-Russian parties, for fairly obvious reasons. Some of those parties call themselves "socialists", but then, so did the Nazis.

Moreover, this is pretty blatant concern-trolling, since you obviously don't care about left-wing parties anywhere, let alone in Ukraine.
He's certainly got your number
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
You mean Zelenskyy? Global arch-manipulator, master of disinformation, prince of propagandists, etc.?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
MB has just rather nicely illustrated the fact that, for all the alleged "Naziness" of Ukraine, the far right around the world is universally supportive of Russia.
 

mixed_biscuits

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I don't get the cartoon tho: just seems like an oppressed minority bravely standing up for itself with the scientific method in the face of bigotry
 
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