Jordan Peterson thinks it makes sense to compare humans with lobsters
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WashYourHands
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He’s a god/christ pill doser, phenomenology of the Divine is ridiculous statement of bs and yeah I stuck at it because what’s lazier than an incomplete critique?
you can tell the bloke in the following story was a Jordan Peterson freak
I was an atheist who took the red pill. Then I took the God pill. Now I’m a Christian
Dave Cullen, better known as Computing Forever, is a popular Irish blogger whose YouTube videos have been viewed over 90 million times. Last week he posted a video announcing his conversion to Christianity entitled 'Rediscovering faith: My journey back to Christianity'. Here's what he said
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WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
Probably has 100 guns
version
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I think at least part of the problem is that however good he was back in the day that isn't what's getting him attention today. What's getting him attention today is controversy and a sizable group of people feeling he's an opponent of the things which irritate them.
You can pull up his old lectures but how many are sitting through hours of that stuff and how many are just enjoying his tweets and clips pretending not to understand pronouns? That's where he is today and that's where the bulk of his audience is today. You can't ignore that in favour of pretending he never left the 90s. It'd be like pretending Nick Land died in 2003 because you like Fanged Noumena.
You can pull up his old lectures but how many are sitting through hours of that stuff and how many are just enjoying his tweets and clips pretending not to understand pronouns? That's where he is today and that's where the bulk of his audience is today. You can't ignore that in favour of pretending he never left the 90s. It'd be like pretending Nick Land died in 2003 because you like Fanged Noumena.
chava
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There are other and perhaps more attractive options if you want "to own the libs" than Peterson. My sense is that most people go for the digested self-help stuff (the book and the inspirational YT videos with bad music) and that's fine.
I agree he should stay off twitter.
I agree he should stay off twitter.
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
He has a peculiar vocabulary even for a so-called academic
Only heard him and David Lynch say ‘golly’ as North Americans in the public domain but JP has a tendency to call kids ‘little monsters‘ a bit too often (I mean hate kids if you want but....), uses slightly incongruous but symbolically emotive terms eg ‘bloody’, he’d be a good word map candidate
Only heard him and David Lynch say ‘golly’ as North Americans in the public domain but JP has a tendency to call kids ‘little monsters‘ a bit too often (I mean hate kids if you want but....), uses slightly incongruous but symbolically emotive terms eg ‘bloody’, he’d be a good word map candidate
mixed_biscuits
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"So-called" academic - it's almost as if the gestures libs make to shore up the symbolic order are at bottom solely expedient
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
he’s a bellend
fuckin waistcoat and pocket watch, I mean look smart if when its called for but his image is deeply controlled these days, I save my own dapper moves for weddings and bar mitzvahs
you know at times mid sentence he’s thinking about the sweet hit of 50mgs of diazepam, images of his daughter in bikinis and swimwear flash in front of his eyes and then he starts crying about Twitter
he could’ve called Elon out. I’d pay top £ to see that debate descend into a fist fight
fuckin waistcoat and pocket watch, I mean look smart if when its called for but his image is deeply controlled these days, I save my own dapper moves for weddings and bar mitzvahs
you know at times mid sentence he’s thinking about the sweet hit of 50mgs of diazepam, images of his daughter in bikinis and swimwear flash in front of his eyes and then he starts crying about Twitter
he could’ve called Elon out. I’d pay top £ to see that debate descend into a fist fight
version
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Another Peaky Blinders casualty.
sus
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I've heard rumors for multiple semi-reputable sources that he believes God has chosen him as a prophet. How metaphorical this is, unclear.
sus
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sus
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Training machines are brutal things, powered by ego appeals and shame. "The algorithm picked him up and spat him out."
version
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"The jungle, it came alive and took him."
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
I got a lot out of the maps of meaning lecture series. Not sure when they're from but definitely before the controversy period. A lot of it was new info to me that could have been found elsewhere but whatevs, he curated a good selection of directions that I can now go and do my own checking out of. And credit's due in that he broke down some fairly complex stuff in a way a non scholar such as me could digest. Particularly thankful for him putting me onto loads of Jung.
He was the spark that got me listening to academic stuff. I used to be a massive podcast head. Thousands of hours. But since JP they've been replaced by lectures etc. So that's cool.. But, I don't see me going back to him anymore. Especially not his latest incarnation. It's beyond self parody at this point. Lost the plot. He's not cut out for the position he's got himself into. It's obviously taken a huge toll and no doubt he will keep doubling down on those petty points forever to keep face, which will of course continue to attract plenty of support from all the wrong people. I can only see it getting worse from here. Dude should hit the showers for like 3 years, maybe take some plant medicine, which he's shown interest in, and see how he feels about it all after that.
He was the spark that got me listening to academic stuff. I used to be a massive podcast head. Thousands of hours. But since JP they've been replaced by lectures etc. So that's cool.. But, I don't see me going back to him anymore. Especially not his latest incarnation. It's beyond self parody at this point. Lost the plot. He's not cut out for the position he's got himself into. It's obviously taken a huge toll and no doubt he will keep doubling down on those petty points forever to keep face, which will of course continue to attract plenty of support from all the wrong people. I can only see it getting worse from here. Dude should hit the showers for like 3 years, maybe take some plant medicine, which he's shown interest in, and see how he feels about it all after that.
chava
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wouldn't surprise me
shakahislop
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podcasting / youtube / that kind of ideas-based internet fame seems to chew people up and spit them out in a parallel way to how the music world did the same to musicians in the 90s
wild greens
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Living in London i often wondered what lurked in the Thames, you would see oddball lads fishing near the Thames Barrier when I lived in Charlton, but no traps in South-East; at least where I lived anyway. We did find a few lads a further down the stream who were trapping for crayfish, though.
Half-arsed research led us to the National Institute of Crayfish Trappers (NCIT), (Later featured in the Grauniad), and their ventures into trapping in waterways up and down the country.
Why crayfish, I hear you ask. In the 70s, the UK government introduced the American Signal crayfish to UK waterways, ostensibly to sell to the Norwegians, whose economy was booming at the time. If research had been carried out properly, they'd have found out the American Signal carried a crayfish plague, which wiped out most of the native population. American Signal had an inbuilt herd immunity.
Like most hairbrained government schemes of their ilk, it was quietly mothballed and after a day or two's desultory press, forgotten. Meanwhile, the American signal was causing havoc in the waterways and wiping out all kinds of species by shoving its knob about and causing an imbalance to native UK species. There is a DEFRA report, if you want to read it
The NCIT is mostly a labour of love from a lad called Crayfish Bob, but he's done well out of it I believe - the American Signal has a much more delicate taste than most of the chinese farm-produced stuff. You can get hold of some mitten crabs in the Thames too, though I'd be loate to eat much from some of the stretches of that water now.
Particularly round the Greenwich peninsula, there's a lot of TPH in the soil from the old refinery that would no doubt cause some problems, however slight.
The lobsters remain a more obscure challenge around London waterways and I dont really have the time or werewithal these days to look into it much. I did hear of a few lads trapping in West London years ago but i think there was only a smattering there
Perhaps for the southern trapper, heading towards the far coast is the answer. On a clear day you could see France in the distance, of course
Half-arsed research led us to the National Institute of Crayfish Trappers (NCIT), (Later featured in the Grauniad), and their ventures into trapping in waterways up and down the country.
Why crayfish, I hear you ask. In the 70s, the UK government introduced the American Signal crayfish to UK waterways, ostensibly to sell to the Norwegians, whose economy was booming at the time. If research had been carried out properly, they'd have found out the American Signal carried a crayfish plague, which wiped out most of the native population. American Signal had an inbuilt herd immunity.
Like most hairbrained government schemes of their ilk, it was quietly mothballed and after a day or two's desultory press, forgotten. Meanwhile, the American signal was causing havoc in the waterways and wiping out all kinds of species by shoving its knob about and causing an imbalance to native UK species. There is a DEFRA report, if you want to read it
The NCIT is mostly a labour of love from a lad called Crayfish Bob, but he's done well out of it I believe - the American Signal has a much more delicate taste than most of the chinese farm-produced stuff. You can get hold of some mitten crabs in the Thames too, though I'd be loate to eat much from some of the stretches of that water now.
Particularly round the Greenwich peninsula, there's a lot of TPH in the soil from the old refinery that would no doubt cause some problems, however slight.
The lobsters remain a more obscure challenge around London waterways and I dont really have the time or werewithal these days to look into it much. I did hear of a few lads trapping in West London years ago but i think there was only a smattering there
Perhaps for the southern trapper, heading towards the far coast is the answer. On a clear day you could see France in the distance, of course
wild greens
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Out towards West London and beyond, of course, there are little "jewel"-like islands in the Thames. Some, like Ham Island or Monkey Island, are largely man-made and populated by hotels or family- inherited eccentrics. Apparently Monkey Island is quite high-end these days?
Then you have the likes of Sheppey or Canvey, which are filled with a populous one may not with to consort with on a regular basis
It is little known, however, that the invasive Mitten Crabs have made some of these islands their own. Chiswick Eyot, an uninhabitable couple of acres that has been designated by Hounslow Council as a nature reserve, has been largely colonised by the Chinese crab species. The crabs’ burrowing loosens the mud around the island and when the tide flows in and out, the earth is washed away, steadily eroding the island over time.
Thus the Eyot is shrinking and may well disappear entirely unless the issue is eventually resolved
Then you have the likes of Sheppey or Canvey, which are filled with a populous one may not with to consort with on a regular basis
It is little known, however, that the invasive Mitten Crabs have made some of these islands their own. Chiswick Eyot, an uninhabitable couple of acres that has been designated by Hounslow Council as a nature reserve, has been largely colonised by the Chinese crab species. The crabs’ burrowing loosens the mud around the island and when the tide flows in and out, the earth is washed away, steadily eroding the island over time.
Thus the Eyot is shrinking and may well disappear entirely unless the issue is eventually resolved