IdleRich

IdleRich
Ooh, who could have foreseen that... but how nuts do you have to be to start a one-man attack on a heavily armed and large group of people like that? To be so annoyed that Trump got raided that you are prepared to, likely die, or at best get arrested and go to jail for a very long time. Presumably he doesn't think he's a Keanu Reeves type who can fight his way through the whole organisation and then capture Wray and bring him to book so I take it to be that he's simply so enraged that he is prepared to sacrifice his entire future in a futile gesture against this historic injustice.

Sure enough...

An armed man who tried to breach the FBI’s Cincinnati office was shot and killed by police after he fled the scene, leading to an hour-long standoff Thursday afternoon, the Ohio highway state patrol said.
 

Leo

Well-known member
Oh and now WAPO is reporting on the docs that the FBI was searching for, turns out it's nothing too important after all, just a load of boring stuff about the US's nuclear arsenal, dunno why they were getting so worked up about it.

This is stating the bleeding obvious but: if this turns out to be confirmed, what possible motive would he have for taking nuke codes? to trade/sell to a foreign power? to blackmail the US government? to start his own war?

there's no legit reason, how could anyone defend him?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
This is stating the bleeding obvious but: if this turns out to be confirmed, what possible motive would he have for taking nuke codes? to trade/sell to a foreign power? to blackmail the US government? to start his own war?

there's no legit reason, how could anyone defend him?
For the sheer narcissistic pleasure of illegally continuing to possess them on his own private property after being turfed out of the White House?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Don't the nuke codes get changed every day? Is this another libtard conspiracy theory?
I remember reading somewhere that the launch codes for the nukular missals in US subs during the Cold War were permanently set to '00000000' so they'd be easy to remember in an emergency.

May not be true but OTOH it wouldn't surprise me either.
 

Leo

Well-known member
Don't the nuke codes get changed every day? Is this another libtard conspiracy theory?

most people assume it meant highly classified information about the nuclear arsenal, military intelligence operations and national security information.
 
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mixed_biscuits

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most people assume in meant highly classified information about the nuclear arsenal, military intelligence operations and national security information.
Won't he have remembered lots of that anyway? Maybe he should be lobotomised.
 

Leo

Well-known member
Yeah, he's renowned for his many hours spent each day carefully studying briefing documents and reports.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Don't the nuke codes get changed every day? Is this another libtard conspiracy theory?
Nobody said codes. In fact, all they said was documents related to nuclear weapons, I wrote "the US nuclear arsenal" cos I wanted to pretend that he was gonna face the death penalty but really it could be anything vaguely related to any nuclear weapons anywhere. Knowing Trump it will probably be the worst thing it could be but I'm pretty sure no-one is actually suggesting that it's the launch codes... unless, I mean, maybe Trump just doesn't understand how things work and wrote down the code for one day. How serious a crime would it be if Trump tried to give the actual launch codes to a rogue supervillain who told him he could delete his tax records in exchange, but luckily he was too dumb to do it properly?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Oh, breaking news, it turns out that just before he left office The Donald demanded to tour a secret nuclear weapons facility and while no-one was looking he stuffed a massive lump of uranium down his pants, it's recently come to light that he's been trying to auction a tiny irradiated mushroom to the highest bidder.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Yeah, he's renowned for his many hours spent each day carefully studying briefing documents and reports.
This is part of what makes him look so guilty, it's been widely reported that he couldn't be arsed to read his daily briefings when he was playing at being president, how likely is it that he decided to spend his retirement studying just to make sure that he remains fully informed about the state of geopolitics?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The warrant has now been leaked by Breitbart (the DOJ wanted to unseal it but redact the names of the agents, somehow however Breitbart "forgot" to do that) and it reveals that the espionage act was involved, as The Guardian puts it

It also looks significant that, in seeking a warrant, the FBI did not invoke code 1924, which is normally used in the case of government employees who hang on to documents they should not have. Instead the justice department used code 2071, relating to the “concealment, removal, or mutilation” of documentation, and code 1519, concerning the “destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in federal investigations”.

“That suggests that the government has reason to believe that President Trump has done more than just hold on to these documents,” Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas, said.

Or people on twitter are saying

MSNBC confirms that the “Espionage Act” being used in the warrant means that there was evidence that Trump had transferred information to a third party (foreign gov’t or organization

This just gets... what, better and better? Worse and worse? I dunno.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The desperation from the right is hilarious they are making up different stories as fast as they can. Someone suggested the other day that the president can declassify documents, and at that point they started saying "maybe he declassified these" which has now been switched to "he definitely declassified all the documents and forgot to mention it" - it's another one of those centrally distributed ideas which has been sent out and is now being parroted on twitter and everywhere by their bots and useful idiots. I always find this very strange how it's so noticeable when there is a sort of semi-official party-line like this that is not being mentioned, then one person says it and suddenly - boom - it's everywhere, everyone repeating it with certainty and as if they came up with it themselves.

But surely, at some point they have to give up don't they? They can't keep fighting reality... when does it become easier to abandon Trump?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
At the moment we have.... it was a political move by a deadly enemy of Trump that he appointed to lead the FBI and the judge that might have signed the warrant met Epstein once, and when they raided Mar-a-Lago they planted documents but Trump had already declassified them, but the raid wasn't about classified documents anyway it was to seize evidence that Trump had relating to Obamagate that implicated the FBI and why did they raid Trump when Hillary did the same thing and she was never investigated (except for that enormous investigation culminating in her testifying for thirteen hours and the FBI concluding that she probably had no case to answer) and what about Hunter's laptop?
 
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