artifacts / fog of war
maxi
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sufi
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a danish film for @mvuent
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The Spider’s Prey
FRAGMENT | The titular villain is an infamous international criminal, Mrs Valentin Kempel, known as “The Predator Spider” due to her habit of ensnaring innocent victims in her web. Men are enchanted by her, and she uses this to coerce them into taking part in her criminal activities. When one of...
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sufi
lala
& for @versiona danish film for @mvuent
The Spider’s Prey
FRAGMENT | The titular villain is an infamous international criminal, Mrs Valentin Kempel, known as “The Predator Spider” due to her habit of ensnaring innocent victims in her web. Men are enchanted by her, and she uses this to coerce them into taking part in her criminal activities. When one of...
linebaugh
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First impression is this mixes elements like a Lisa frank drawing
sus
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What films are we talking about? I haven't really noticed this tbh. Two of the more recent films I remember seeing, Waiting for the Barbarians and Green Knight, were ridiculously gorgeous, like Lawrence of Arabia and Tarkovsky-level cinematography, respectively
sus
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I think it's really hard to differentiate between what looks good because of cultural associations and what "intrinsically" "looks good" "formally"
I think human perception is not wired up to make this distinction, between social meaning and "pure aesthetics"
I think this should make us wary of privileging film
I think human perception is not wired up to make this distinction, between social meaning and "pure aesthetics"
I think this should make us wary of privileging film
sus
Moderator
I think my Pixel takes startlingly good pictures if I put effort towards that
But also I think putting effort towards composition just isn't a priority with most photos
And also that we live in an era of very mixed quality technology, so $50 Walmart smartphones with literal $1 Chinese cameras are interwoven with everything else. Then you throw in all the compression social platforms use to keep hosting costs low
But also I think putting effort towards composition just isn't a priority with most photos
And also that we live in an era of very mixed quality technology, so $50 Walmart smartphones with literal $1 Chinese cameras are interwoven with everything else. Then you throw in all the compression social platforms use to keep hosting costs low
linebaugh
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90% of most things released on streaming platforms. Its not that films can no longer look good but films that dont desire to look good dont have to, where as the bad films and the good all used to have the same process, and I think at the least the floor of something shot on film is generally better than the depths of how awful something can look on digital.
version
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Yeah, this is what I was getting at. I wasn't talking about individual artistry or claiming there aren't decent looking contemporary films. I was talking about film itself looking good in a way that digital doesn't. That's why I mentioned that crappy 70s thing. It was the equivalent of some forgettable Netflix horror but it looked better purely because of the gear.
That being said, the argument's muddied somewhat by the best looking stuff, imo, being a product of old and new tech, stuff shot on film that's been upgraded for modern formats, e.g. the Sorcerer restoration. The new gear highlights the imperfections of the old in a complementary way, emphasising the grit and grain.