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yeah i got that in email and was huh ?

okay , yes , i can do that , and have, i did re-read yr posts just now , but i'm still not seeing exactly what's annoyed u so much about people's responses here (honest) above you ask people to ask themselves why this is such a big deal, to ask why they are whining , further above you say to...

'whining' you say? so if someone objects to an account that bears no relation to reality, that invents a connection between a nasty drug and a loosely assoicated bunch of emergent sounds/styles, no one should object ? everyone else in the world of research, writing, journalism, whatever...

shameful and sad . . . unbelievable really : just like that, the 'brand' is attached . . . (shakes head in dismay)

yeah i think you summarized the reasons for the errors quite nicely HOWEVER, i would re-emphasize the point that i made above: it is totally ridiculous that this writer feels no compunction in creating and disseminating fantasies and rumor about entire musical styles, communities, and club...

i mean, doesn't Reynolds have friends or editors who would put the brakes on something so strange as a public account of how 'ketamine is driving the wonky club scene' ? the whole episode is bizarre ... Alos: for those who mention the caveats/speculative nature of the article, how bout this...

thanks for the journalistically bankrupt point of view . . .I'll be sure to keep that in mind, "hey, it's okay to say anything about anyone/any art/any community, as long as it creates interest" for the ten thousandth time, it is not about bashing Reynolds, it is about holding someone to the...

an important thing to remember: without this thread, or a familiarity with the scene, no person having read Reynolds' article (in a highly visible outlet as elgato says) would be in a position to know that wonky is not a ketamine-addled new genre . . . which is the ridiculousness of it...

after reading this thread, Reynolds' article can only look like one thing: an embarrassing bit of nonsense that ought to get him his journalistic credentials yanked

it is teh internet , series of tubes , i talk what i want to talk about , point is , talkin bout formal training means absolutely NOTHING unles u can coherently apply it in an argumetn , for which i see exactly zero - and i do mean zero - evidence that u have done here yet . is that fair ? u...

hahahahha fine then , name one piece , and preferably measure , & i will see you said "early 20th Century CLASSICAL music": stockhausen's just died ,first piece in 51 , he famously hated repetition and AFRICAN rdrums birtwistle is STILL ALIVE Boulez , DITTO but he loves african drums true ...

oh oh oh , i see . u r prolly TEH ONLY 1 here hoo has many years of formal traiing , whew thx for clarification i will shut upp now i am humbled .

oh we r talkin' about Europe now , i see :p

'breaky' as in rhythm 'drum patterns' = sampled funk drum breaks ? in clasical music ? breaky drum patterns in -early- 2oth Ctry CLASSICAL music ? rlly ? cld u steer me in that direction of one ... ? thanks !

ouch all british people in general r havin hwoited feelies nowz ! ! how is dat jungle transcription comin along btw ? any1 wif a year of formal muisical training cld write a song like this in 10 minutes? i know me a lot of music students wif 1 year of training, they donut make music like...