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Mr. Tea

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1,250 deaths. 72,000,000 doses administered. That's one death - nearly all of them in very elderly or already infirm people - per 60,000 doses.

And the number of actually serious ADRs - namely blood clots and anaphylaxis - is in the hundreds. With well over half the population having received at least one dose.

Compare that to a disease that's killed 130,000 in this country alone and left a million with long-term symptoms, after infecting just 4.5M people.

What kind of total fucking assclown do you have to be to think these two risks are even remotely comparable?
 
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Mr. Tea

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Seriously guys, I don't get it. What's with you right-wing nutjobs and a total failure to understand risk? Why do you insist that anyone taking reasonable precautions to avoid catching a disease that could kill them or leave them with multiple long-term disabilities is "living in fear", while at the same time you're absolutely shitting your kecks over a vaccine with a truly submicroscopic chance of doing you any serious harm?

I honestly don't understand how someone with such a cognitive deficit goes about their day.
 

Mr. Tea

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What if long covid turns out to be caused by proliferation of those very same spike proteins millions of people's bodies are busy printing by the trillion right now? Could be. Nobody knows for sure.
What if you're talking out of your ring about something you know nothing about?

Well over half the country has had at least one dose by now. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but 99.996% of those people neither died nor had a life-threatening reaction, and they haven't got long covid either, because you get that from the disease, not the medicine that helps you not get the disease (tricky distinction, know).

Admittedly, there is a veritable pandemic of tingly arms, passing headaches, and transient nausea. :eek:
 

WashYourHands

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What if long covid turns out to be caused by proliferation of those very same spike proteins millions of people's bodies are busy printing by the trillion right now? Could be. Nobody knows for sure. I've my popcorn ready.

Possible "we had to destroy the village to save it" scenario, like lockdowns.

The globalist village, please.....oy oy

To roleplay, Covid the perfect disrupter as a low-grade bio-weapon. It caught ageing, unhealthy populations and vulnerable groups here mid-Brexit existential hernia, and a political system prolapsing like gout-ridden clowns in the disgrace we call politics

Back to the paranoia. How do you test a system? You stress it, keep it agitated. Have a golem like Hancock leading THE ENTIRE DEPT OF HEALTH. So now we're here, with 2 choices. I wouldn't denounce someone for vaccine caution, it's how entire narrative thematic networks drive this (and what underpins them), as much as spike proteins
 
What if you're talking out of your ring about something you know nothing about?

Well over half the country has had at least one dose by now. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but 99.996% of those people neither died nor had a life-threatening reaction, and they haven't got long covid either, because you get that from the disease, not the medicine that helps you not get the disease (tricky distinction, know).

Admittedly, there is a veritable pandemic of tingly arms, passing headaches, and transient nausea. :eek:

Your mind runs on rails of the narrowest gauge, doesn't it? Somebody drop me a line when this myopic bore has fucked off from here. Until then... Bye.
 

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Canada is allowing 12 year old children to make a decision about whether to take an experimental gene therapy, that has not been fully evaluated with regards to long term safety, without parental consent and then being 'rewarded' with an ice cream cone: in my opinion this shows we have lost our moral compass as a society. Full stop. Period.
 

IdleRich

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Well, it was a piece of piss to register and pretend I was a doctor. Let's see what their moderation is like.
Anyone can call themselves a doctor these days apparently. On Sunday my girlfriend went to buy some medical supplies from a guy whose name was apparently Dr G. I honestly don't think he had any medical qualifications at all. Perhaps this is what caused her to misidentify him as some kind of random thug hassling her and hail him with the non-traditional greeting "Fuck off and leave me alone".
I was speaking to her on the phone at the time and she was saying "No, no I can't see him - fuck off! - nah there's no-one here except this - I said fuck off!" and so on. Finally some sort of transaction was made, but his parting shot of "Never call this number again" suggests to me it's another one off the list.
 

IdleRich

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What does that mean in practical terms can you still get a delivery
I don't really know what it means in practical terms. It says "3pm weekend curfew" but no-one seems to be sure what precisely curfew means here or whether or not Friday is part of the weekend. There does seem to be a consensus that the "3pm" is the normal usage though, meaning three hours after midday. So basically at 3pm on some not totally known day something will happen or, perhaps more accurately, cease to happen. Or continue not happening but in such a way that for it to stop not happening would be illegal.
As for deliveries, I'm not at all sure so I took the precaution of obviating any need for such by making sure that I had plenty of supplies on hand and, just to be extra safe, I got really fucking high to give myself - what is technically called I understand - a buffer zone before I would need to get stuck into them. Never let it be said by anyone that i am not taking this situation extremely seriously.
 

IdleRich

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Thank you for that, I'm not sure I would agree.
On the other hand....
Last night one of my friends came round to drink a lot and listen to music and stuff, and of course the topic of conversation roamed far and wide and we pretty much put the world to rights as you can imagine. One thing that came up was the pandemic and various governmental responses and so on, catalysed no doubt by the latest lockdown being sprung on us so suddenly. I think that we agreed that pretty much all governments have been lacking in any really coherent long-term strategy for dealing with the pandemic, noone has really, consistently appeared to know what they are doing. But even so, and with this incredibly low bar, as far as I can tell, the UK and - perhaps to a slightly lesser extent - Portuguese governments have still managed to distinguish themselves from most others with their consistent record of sudden panics, inexplicable and random gestures, about turns and flat contradictions of whatever it was that they absolutely guaranteed last week was definitely gonna happen.
In a situation which is very difficult to deal with and which makes predictions and certainties hard to come by, a situation in fact in which one would be inclined towards sympathy for those who have to lead, Johnson seems to almost willfully use up this capital he might grudgingly be given by constantly making stupid promises that he can't keep. His pathetic desire to only give good news - though unaccompanied by any real desire to actually do anything to deal with the circumstances from which the news arise - makes him more unsuited than almost anyone in the world to lead a country at this time.
 
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