The Scapegoat

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"I do understand it though. for whatever reason putting '-[authors name]' at the end of a quote makes me feel like a knob"

-- Linebaugh
 
Leo

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Yeah, it is tricky. It's also exposing some of the people who argue healthcare's a basic human right as apparently they don't feel that right extends to those who've declined the vaccine.
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not sure I understand. are people actually saying healthcare should be denied to those who don't want to get vaccinated?
 
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Leo said:
not sure I understand. are people actually saying healthcare should be denied to those who don't want to get vaccinated?
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Yeah, there are people saying anyone who catches the virus after refusing the vaccine shouldn't be treated and should be left to die.
 
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really? maybe I'm way out of the loop but I've never heard that from anyone, or read about it. are you sure it's not just a few twitter nutjobs?
 
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Leo said:
true, but also tricky in a way. if my actions only affect me, then I have every right to do them. if my actions affect others, does the state have responsibility to make sure it's not a negative affect? if I want to drink myself to death, there's no law stopping me or ways the state can make my life unbearable. but if I drunkenly get behind the wheel of a car, doesn't the state have a responsibility to protect others from my dangerous driving?

maybe not the perfect analogy in answer to your question, but you get my point. unvaccinated people aren't just a danger to themselves.
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Problem is, the vaxxed can spread it and it's those leaky vaccines that foster more virulent strains
 
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Leo said:
really? maybe I'm way out of the loop but I've never heard that from anyone, or read about it. are you sure it's not just a few twitter nutjobs?
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I hope it's just a few nutjobs, but I've seen it a fair few times now and George Takei's currently in the news saying they should be denied priority care.
 
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Problem is, the vaxxed can spread it and it's those leaky vaccines that foster more virulent strains
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what does that have to do with what I said? also, unvaxxed people spread it about a million times more frequently than vaxxed folks, so kind of moot.
 
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Leo said:
a former "star trek" actor tweets something, who cares?
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The point's that once celebrities start saying this sort of thing and gaining coverage then it's starting to gain traction and isn't necessarily "just a few nutjobs" anymore. I doubt anything will come of it, but it's a bit grim nonetheless and just adds fuel to the fire.
 
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Another thing that appears to be happening is people conflating anyone taking issue with the pandemic response or apprehensive about the vaccine with their mental image of a stereotypical Trump supporter or conspiracy theorist when that isn't really the case.
www.nytimes.com

Why Only 28 Percent of Young Black New Yorkers Are Vaccinated (Published 2021)

As the Delta variant courses through New York City, many young Black New Yorkers remain distrustful of the vaccine.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
 
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I guess it's easier to think and say the things some of these people are saying if they convince themselves the people they're thinking and saying them about are the people they already dislike.
 
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