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This seems cartoonishly evil,

Tory minister who voted against free school meals made £65 expense claim – for book about childhood poverty.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It actually makes more sense when you realise that the full tile of the book was Child Poverty; how to perpetuate it (and to profit from their misery)
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Actually it's fine, he's given a totally plausible explanation
But Mr Walker, who was himself educated at the private St Paul’s School in London, said his decision – to deny poor children a hot meal every day – had been “misrepresented”
It is just crazy - and really indicative of our biased media - that so many people have been fooled into thinking that when the Tories put a three line whip in place to defeat Labour's motion in favour of providing free food to children who might not have enough food to eat over Christmas, it somehow meant that they were against that motion and the feeding of the hungry children that it repesented. People are so easily manipulated in thie country.
In his own words.
“I think the vote on Wednesday was how we help not whether we help,” he told the Worcester News. “We are definitely going to make sure that there is support for the most vulnerable people and the debate was about whether the best to do that was through free school meals or through the welfare system.
“The motion I voted for was providing extra support through the welfare system.”
I don't think that that was mentioned at the time but I'm sure he's telling the truth - a Conservative member of parliament would certainly never lie on something like this. I'm clearly quite ignorant on this topic, but I'm glad to learn this, from now on I'll be aware that if someone votes against a motion, they are not opposing the idea itself, rather they actually support the idea, just not the way of doing it and their vote can be understood entirely as a vote for another way of achieving the aims of the motion.... although one thing I don't yet understand is how people are supposed to know what that alternative way that hasn't been mentioned and which the dissenters are in favour of actually is. I guess I just need to keep trying to gain a better understanding of politics and stop making stupid naive assumptions like,8 for example, when someone says something they mean it.,
Mr Walker has previously served in the Scotland Office and the Department for Exiting the European Union.
I'm assuming that in that role he did remember that when the Referendum voted against staying in the EU, that was of course, a vote that just rejected staying in the EU in the way that we were, and was of course a vote for a new way of staying in the EU - perhaps adopting the euro or something.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Seriously that is fucking pathetic. Trump wouldn't even try that would he? He'd probably just say "no I voted for it, saying I voted against it is fake news" but would he claim that a vote against something is in fact a vote for it?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
It actually makes more sense when you realise that the full tile of the book was Child Poverty; how to perpetuate it (and to profit from their misery)
Nah, it's a Taschen book full of glossy, artily shot photos of hungry or otherwise miserable children.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Have you seen that the Tories are now so desperate to catch leakers that they are actually saying that when they tell ministers about new initiatives they will word it differently - maybe even tell them different things - so if it's leaked they will be able to tell from which version was leaked, precisely who it was who leaked it.
Only problem with this is that it's, er, been leaked, so everyone will be prepared for it and presumably won't get caught in the trap.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I read a few years ago that often historians include minor made up details in their books so that, if that detail shows up in another work they know that they have been plagiarised. Similarly Ordnance Survey put in a few little made up streams and stuff on their maps so that they can tell if someone has copied them in their own release. But that seems kinda weird, what if people are wandering around looking for that river?
 

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luka also does this with a lot of his posts, he puts in things that he doesn't actually think, just to see what people think.
 

jenks

thread death
I read a few years ago that often historians include minor made up details in their books so that, if that detail shows up in another work they know that they have been plagiarised. Similarly Ordnance Survey put in a few little made up streams and stuff on their maps so that they can tell if someone has copied them in their own release. But that seems kinda weird, what if people are wandering around looking for that river?
Whole article here on trap streets
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Thank you, it's quite interesting I think.
This bit refers to Ordnance Survey and addresses my complaint above
The Guardian reported that these features were pure design elements such as the width of roads, and did not extend to putting misleading features into the maps themselves, corroborating what Lawrence had claimed: “There are some publishers who put deliberate mistakes in their maps. We don’t do that—it would mislead our customers. For us, it’s more about the style we use.”
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Although....
The existence of such doctored locations is routinely denied in public statements by publishers, even when acknowledged in closed legal proceedings, and so the Ordnance Survey’s denials should be viewed with a certain circumspection.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Argleton sounds like an art project waiting to happen. It's almost like an alternate world parallel to Dunwhich or other towns that one existed and disappeared. What does it mean for a non-existent town to vanish?
In 2010, the place (because no such term—city, town, hamlet—exists for imaginary locations) known as Argleton disappeared from Google Maps. The poverty of digital archives means its provenance remains a mystery, but it existed for some brief period prior to this date. It lived, as it were, for some time as a settlement within the boundaries of the civil parish of Aughton in West Lancashire. The cascade effect of digital technologies has ensured its survival, partial as it may be, in real estate, employment, and weather databases. At time of writing, TravelRepublic.co.uk lists the West Tower Country House Hotel, the Swan Hotel, Martin Lane Farmhouse Holiday Cottage, the Farmhouse Burscough, and numerous others as potential holiday accommodations in Argleton. Padz.com lists rental accommodation—at least one “BRILLIANT MALE STUDENT FLAT!” and numerous others—in Argleton. And Enormo.co.uk has “a modern, two bedroomed, ground floor apartment, located in an established area just minutes walk from Ormskirk Town Centre shopping and transport facilities” located in the ghost precinct. Attempt to walk it and only fields are found.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Have you seen that the Tories are now so desperate to catch leakers that they are actually saying that when they tell ministers about new initiatives they will word it differently - maybe even tell them different things - so if it's leaked they will be able to tell from which version was leaked, precisely who it was who leaked it.
Only problem with this is that it's, er, been leaked, so everyone will be prepared for it and presumably won't get caught in the trap.
This is Tyrion's ploy to discover Cersei's spy in Game of Gnomes, isn't it?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Also Coleen Rooney vs Rebekah Vardy
Yeah that was definitely where BJ got the idea I reckon... no way has he got the patience to read Game of Thrones, let alone a history book.
ps you forgot to mention that they called that the Wagatha Christie scandal.
 

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Apparently some spin doctor's resigned from Downing Street and Cummings and David Frost are about to go with him?!
 
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