Daily Mail was on the warpath today. I took a photo but the image is too big to upload - headline was "a sick joke". Except in capitals, obviously.Two things I find depressing about this. The first is that the Tories have done all sorts of heinously evil shit over the last few years and have generally shrugged off any criticism for it, and the first thing that really sticks is a fucking Christmas party - which even if it does for Boris won't put any sort of pressure on whoever comes after him to be less heinously evil, just marginally better at keeping their nose clean while they do it. And the second is the suspicion that they'd probably be shrugging this off too if parts of the right-wing media hadn't decided - for whatever reason - that they're no longer bothered about propping Boris up and they're not going to play along and move the story on when it suits him for it to move on anymore.
Yeah, this is what I was trying to get at on the previous page. Don't get me wrong, it is bad that the government imposed laws on the rest of us, then ignored them completely and lied about it.... so thiis is a non-trivial issue in that sense. But I don't think it is as bad as, say, giving public money to Arcuri's company that she was definitely not entitled to receive, purely so that he could get his horrlble flabby leg over her equally unattractive body... how is it hat he was able to slide out of that one, something which has been a clear resigning matter over my lifetime. And then we have the small matter of Covid, of course I am not saying that he is responsible for every death, but the government's lack of interest, slow response, mixed messages and so on have caused extra deaths which should have been avoided. Keeping the citizenry safe is surely one of THE most important rules of any leader so to fail at it so egregiously should have been the end of him for certain.Two things I find depressing about this. The first is that the Tories have done all sorts of heinously evil shit over the last few years and have generally shrugged off any criticism for it, and the first thing that really sticks is a fucking Christmas party - which even if it does for Boris won't put any sort of pressure on whoever comes after him to be less heinously evil, just marginally better at keeping their nose clean while they do it. And the second is the suspicion that they'd probably be shrugging this off too if parts of the right-wing media hadn't decided - for whatever reason - that they're no longer bothered about propping Boris up and they're not going to play along and move the story on when it suits him for it to move on anymore.
The way he flatly said “socially distanced from the truth” expecting it to be a lethal blow
mmm my preference is for the dog evacuation scandal, personally,Two things I find depressing about this. The first is that the Tories have done all sorts of heinously evil shit over the last few years and have generally shrugged off any criticism for it, and the first thing that really sticks is a fucking Christmas party - which even if it does for Boris won't put any sort of pressure on whoever comes after him to be less heinously evil, just marginally better at keeping their nose clean while they do it. And the second is the suspicion that they'd probably be shrugging this off too if parts of the right-wing media hadn't decided - for whatever reason - that they're no longer bothered about propping Boris up and they're not going to play along and move the story on when it suits him for it to move on anymore.
Barnard Castle all over again.impressive how much everybody is getting behind the lying too,
either you toe the line or you are out, so all the cabinet, MPs, PPSs and these civil service bigwigs are just lying their little socks off in support and service of the bosses, its a contagion spreading from the top like a proverbial rotting fish
but the cover ups and lying starts to eclipse the events that they are denying, if they fronted up earlier and said "yes and what of it", it would be less damaging?Barnard Castle all over again.
so you get this scandal and fuss about the barefaced dishonesty that is somehow even more slippery than the orginal offenses, which were actualy arguably not even hugely serious and yet still...but the cover ups and lying starts to eclipse the events that they are denying, if they fronted up earlier and said "yes and what of it", it would be less damaging?
"yes we tory bastards like a party att xmas fuck you so what you gonna do?"
"and we dumped the afghans on the useless FCDO who gives a?"
"i took my mother in law out for a fucking jolly alrght?"
Good question, seems there are three basic positions or ways in which the press can deal with events that occur and which they should be relaying to us...i can never work out if there is any relationship at all between what 'the public' think and get upset about and what the press decide to make a fuss about or if it is pure fantasy from top to bottom.
Yes, up to a point. But all they are saying is "no rules were broken at any point" which is utterly bland to the point of being meaningless. None of them will elaborate on that in any way cos they know that any specific lie that they tell runs the risk of being undermined by the truth coming out. So every interview goeas something likeimpressive how much everybody is getting behind the lying too,
either you toe the line or you are out, so all the cabinet, MPs, PPSs and these civil service bigwigs are just lying their little socks off in support and service of the bosses, its a contagion spreading from the top like a proverbial rotting fish
yeah i think that despite the careful words everyone can smell the stink of bullshittingYes, up to a point. But all they are saying is "no rules were broken at any point" which is utterly bland to the point of being meaningless. None of them will elaborate on that in any way cos they know that any specific lie that they tell runs the risk of being undermined by the truth coming out. So every interview goeas something like
Journalist - do you feel that this party has undermined the government's moral authority to make laws relating to covid?
MP - I don't feel that because no rules were broken at any time
Journalist - but if there was a party which wasn't primarily a work party then it was banned so the rules must have been broken unless this was in fact a working event rather than a party. Are you saying that this was mainly a working event?
MP - all I can tell you is that no laws were broken at any time
Journalist - but reports are saying that there were more than twenty people there from several different bubbles. How can this have happened without breaking the rules?
MP - I don't know anything about that, all I know is that no rules were broken at any time
And it just goes on and on like that, with them asserting this claim but unable to provide any evidence that supports it, or even to deny claims that make it impossible. They daren't say "there were fewer than 20 there" in case a photo appears with 50 people in party hats... so they repeat the overall larger claim which, if it were true, would entail loads of particular smaller claims which they oiught to be able to asserrt with equal certainty... yet somehow they don't dare.
apparently the journalists were at this party too but noone is saying whoYes, up to a point. But all they are saying is "no rules were broken at any point" which is utterly bland to the point of being meaningless. None of them will elaborate on that in any way cos they know that any specific lie that they tell runs the risk of being undermined by the truth coming out. So every interview goeas something like
Journalist - do you feel that this party has undermined the government's moral authority to make laws relating to covid?
MP - I don't feel that because no rules were broken at any time
Journalist - but if there was a party which wasn't primarily a work party then it was banned so the rules must have been broken unless this was in fact a working event rather than a party. Are you saying that this was mainly a working event?
MP - all I can tell you is that no laws were broken at any time
Journalist - but reports are saying that there were more than twenty people there from several different bubbles. How can this have happened without breaking the rules?
MP - I don't know anything about that, all I know is that no rules were broken at any time
And it just goes on and on like that, with them asserting this claim but unable to provide any evidence that supports it, or even to deny claims that make it impossible. They daren't say "there were fewer than 20 there" in case a photo appears with 50 people in party hats... so they repeat the overall larger claim which, if it were true, would entail loads of particular smaller claims which they oiught to be able to asserrt with equal certainty... yet somehow they don't dare.
Well that is an interesting extra dimension in itself. If they were there then why the fuck didn't they say something? I notice on twitter every time Laura - what's her name - Kuensberg (sp) says anything there are loads of people going "just answer the question - were you at the party?"apparently the journalists were at this party too but noone is saying who
mmm my preference is for the dog evacuation scandal, personally,
we're so indulged we can choose which juicy cover-up to be scandalised about