rolling back to the future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step etc thread

[luka]

blake sounds like he is trying to guilt trip a girl to go to bed with him by being so contemptibly wheedling, 'sensitve', pathetic and emasculated that she'll go along with it just to get him to shut the fuck up.

 

[SecondLine]

haha I can't be bothered to find the exact JB track that that one seems to be biting on but it's not one with singing/wheedling/sex pestering in it.

 

[CrowleyHead]

blake sounds like he is trying to guilt trip a girl to go to bed with him by being so contemptibly wheedling, 'sensitve', pathetic and emasculated that she'll go along with it just to get him to shut the fuck up.

So now he's Drake with autism?

 

[Blackdown]

While you lot are obsessing whether you think he is or isn't inviting you to bed, I think James blake's a badman producer. There are lots of people who are classically trained. There are lots of people who can make beats but in essence do nothing special with keys, chords, intervals modes etc. But it's like Blake has all these powers that he uses for the dark side, chords that are so wrong they're right - which is very hard to do...

 

[luka]

"you lot" in this case being one luka. we dont have the same taste in music martin. we have known this for a long time. i dont like th genre entitled future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step. you love it. i just came hre to say its big in new zealand.

 

[gumdrops]

Blake has all these powers that he uses for the dark side, chords that are so wrong they're right - which is very hard to do...

i like blake, i even like some of the songs he sings on (unluck, wilhelms scream, never learnt to share, lindisfarne) but a lot of his beats are really awkward/borderline irritating (eg - i mind) and far too diffident. i would never say he uses them for the darkside. he uses them more for the 'niceside'

 

[jimitheexploder]

I'm really into Pan on the latest James Blake 12", nice eyes down number that. Sounds kinda like that track on Brainmath by Spider or something, really like it after the drop in the middle.

Kinda worried where Hemlock is heading at the mo though. That Breton 12" sounded like dated indie disco fodder from about 6 years ago and the remixes aint all that. Plus Untold's new project with the vocalist dude sucks so hard its unreal. The new James Blake gave me hope mind hope its just a blip.

 

[e/y]

hmmm, I liked the untold / dreadnought thing (or at least the one clip I heard).

 

[SecondLine]

hmmm, I liked the untold / dreadnought thing (or at least the one clip I heard).

the guy's voice just sounds like one massive faux pas to me.

 

[jimitheexploder]

the guy's voice just sounds like one massive faux pas to me.

Thats pretty much it. But the beats wernt all that either. I mean they didn't really compliment each other. Untold is a badman but this isn't the one for me.

Pretty sure my mate said it best when he said it sounded like bad trip-hop remixes of Muse lol.

 

[Leo]

forget post-dubstep, this is the next thing...

 

[Blackdown]

"you lot" in this case being one luka. we dont have the same taste in music martin. we have known this for a long time. i dont like th genre entitled future garage/post-dubstep/alt-funkstep/intelli-2step. you love it. i just came hre to say its big in new zealand.

"you lot" was you and crowlyhead who had the bile out for blake and jamie xx earlier. i dont like all the music in this thread by any means, much of it is utterly mediocre and i avoid it but i'm not going to throw it all out for reasons like a) some of the acts have a lot of PR exposure or b) because funky exists ergo it shouldn't or somesuch. tbh i have no idea what music you like luka, you seem to prefer arguing about it.

 

[gumdrops]

 

[wascal]

 

[mms]

"you lot" was you and crowlyhead who had the bile out for blake and jamie xx earlier. i dont like all the music in this thread by any means, much of it is utterly mediocre and i avoid it but i'm not going to throw it all out for reasons like a) some of the acts have a lot of PR exposure or b) because funky exists ergo it shouldn't or somesuch. tbh i have no idea what music you like luka, you seem to prefer arguing about it.

one thing i find hilarious how these post dubstep or whatever guys are obsessed with this false idea that they're 'avoiding hype' - it's like hype-balls -

"To xxxx, hype is irrelevant. You only have to look at their latest, and arguably, most high profile release for evidence. The radio rip of XXXX had been online for months with no news of who was releasing it. Then one Monday morning, XXXX created a mini website and released it in an attempt to bypass the hype.'

or 'wears a mask to sidestep the hype'

alongside the magazine interviews and mixes etc....

some honestly pleeze.

most of this stuff is muzak anyway.

 

[gumdrops]

not having hype is the new hype.

 

[daddek]

one thing i find hilarious how these post dubstep or whatever guys are obsessed with this false idea that they're 'avoiding hype' - it's like hype-balls - ....

some honestly pleeze.

man i had the exact same rant at a friend who was hyping about some new post dubstep act who didnt let anyone see their faces, didnt give anything away about themselves, avoiding the hype etcetcetcetcetc i couldnt believe he brought into that shit with such abandon. They're just strategizing a next hype, its almost more cynical, that shit. trying to get some burial shine. *calculations dressed up as authenticiy.

 

[Slothrop]

man i had the exact same rant at a friend who was hyping about some new post dubstep act who didnt let anyone see their faces, didnt give anything away about themselves, avoiding the hype etcetcetcetcetc i couldnt believe he brought into that shit with such abandon. They're just strategizing a next hype, its almost more cynical, that shit. trying to get some burial shine. *calculations dressed up as authenticiy.

I don't think that claiming to be "not about the hype" is a particularly new phenomenon, it's probably been going on since the first caveman banged two rocks together. But yeah, the whole cultivated anonymity thing is pretty daft. I mean, back when Burial was still anonymous, people were a lot more interested in Burial as a person than they were in, say, Pinch or Loefah. Again, not sure this is a particularly post-dubstep phenomenon either.

 

[daddek]

na i reckon dubstep, like say techno (looking at it from afar), has had a tendency for shrouded-ness. i can think of several big-ish DS acts who employ anonymity full time, more who've toyed off and on. Interesting when its rare, quite commendable when its honest.
but can be just a rouse for extra attention cant it

the p-dubstep lot are a lot more pr/hype savvy than the older scene, hence my added cynicism perhaps

 

[e/y]

tbh, I can't think of too many producers who stay anonymous in the way that Burial did. ok, SBTRKT wears a mask...so does Zomby (he's not p*st-dubstep, tho...is he?). who else, though? I think this is far more prevalent in techno and house - Redshape, the whole Horizontal Ground / Frozen Border project, Adam X's Traversable Wormhole, Tiger & Woods...

or do you guys mean stuff like sicko cell - creating mystery (ie, hype) around it by not saying who produced it (marketing considerations aside, I really don't see what the point of doing that is)?

lol. also laughed at Dreadnought = bad trip hop remixes of Muse. I used to listen to Muse a lot in my mid-teens. maybe that's why the Untold thing appealed to me