they look amazing - but i can't really see the appeal outside that - but they do seem to have something about them that i've noticed that popstars and cgi and computer game characters seem to be worlds that are merging together, its as if from indie rock, with lots of grey men, we've come out into this world where things seem much more cartoony, these guys seem computer game ready like they're already avatars.
Die Antwoord
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what i know from speaking with long time SA music scenesters:
ninja is one of like 15 characters dude has created in his comedy/hiphop career; it's also the first to make him any money and bring exposure.
they work with all the usual producers in the SA hiphop circles, like African Dope guys, etc. but on their albums all production is attributed to a fictional person.
in SA everyone understands the joke: that they claim to represent all of SA, while they are not even real Afrikaans. but out here the jokes are lost in the translation and they are at serious risk of a load of misunderstandings...
they don't do anything for me that "real" african hiphop can not do 10 times better but it's cursorily interesting i suppose. in some ways.
ninja is one of like 15 characters dude has created in his comedy/hiphop career; it's also the first to make him any money and bring exposure.
they work with all the usual producers in the SA hiphop circles, like African Dope guys, etc. but on their albums all production is attributed to a fictional person.
in SA everyone understands the joke: that they claim to represent all of SA, while they are not even real Afrikaans. but out here the jokes are lost in the translation and they are at serious risk of a load of misunderstandings...
they don't do anything for me that "real" african hiphop can not do 10 times better but it's cursorily interesting i suppose. in some ways.
Benny Bunter
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^^^all this is true I think. Their album is good for a few listens though and they make me laugh so I'm all for it really.
my friend said he first came across the word as an adjective, like a mixture between sif (nasty) and kief (cool) ... then it became a clothes thing, afrikaans white trash bling glam. now its like a more generalised reclaiming-Afrikaner-culture thing.
http://mhambi.com/2010/02/what-is-zef/
http://mhambi.com/2010/02/what-is-zef/
the usual reasons i suppose... easily marketable sound/image, compared to much higher quality SA artists.
nochexxx
harco pronting
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
this is all way too confusing. one of his previous incarnations:
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FairiesWearBoots
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this is terrible, ironic or not, its not good.
very eye-catching but just shock value rap
very eye-catching but just shock value rap
CrowleyHead
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Is there really a shock value to this though?
I don't get 'the joke', I guess...
I don't get 'the joke', I guess...
baboon2004
Darned cockwombles.
http://africasacountry.com/2010/02/19/is-die-antwoord-blackface/ - has this alredy been posted here? An interesting piece, at any rate.
And there was a related argument about whether the tattoos Jones has on his chest and arms are the actual symbols of the (legendary South African prison 'numbers' gangs) 26s, 27s and 28s or not. I can't believe that anyone not insane would dare to do that, but some (south African) people seem convinced...
Edit: links in with what Zhao is saying upthread about all S Africans getting the joke
And there was a related argument about whether the tattoos Jones has on his chest and arms are the actual symbols of the (legendary South African prison 'numbers' gangs) 26s, 27s and 28s or not. I can't believe that anyone not insane would dare to do that, but some (south African) people seem convinced...
Edit: links in with what Zhao is saying upthread about all S Africans getting the joke
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
A friend of mine sent me a link to the 'Enter The Ninja' video the other day. I was sure I'd heard the name of the group from a thread on here ages ago, and here we are. Quite possibly the most terrible thing I've ever heard. Also the woman has one of those haircuts that makes you look like a lobotomy patient, and kinda sings like it too.
Edit: they should hook up with the Juggalos, I reckon they'd go down a storm.
Edit: they should hook up with the Juggalos, I reckon they'd go down a storm.
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pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
SecondLine
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Tea are you going to bang face?
I missed them at Sonar, plan to recycle that approach
I missed them at Sonar, plan to recycle that approach
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
Oops, just seen this - nah, I've never been to their weekender, might try and remedy this at some point but I'm busy elsewhere this year. Used to quite enjoy their night in London a few years ago, silly as hell and patronized mainly by monstered 18-year-olds but generally good fun all the same.