Are you an owl or a lark?

Are you an Owl or a Lark?

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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
As to the rest, it undoubtedly is misogynist, but there is a considerable portion of porn (I haven't watched the videos of German girls with 5 men....not my thing I'm afraid...) for which it seems more than a bit patronising and misogynist to automatically, without any interrogationtake the line that 'these girls don't know what they're doing'.

i think your line is at least as misogynist as the one you're criticising, to be honest. No-one here (as far as I can see) has said that exploitation doesn't exist in porn - it's just not the whole story.
 
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matmustard

theta
oh baboon, you disappoint me. please point out the bit where i expressed anything to do with my sexual prowess...
i'll be waitng here a long time, you got NOTHING.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Re-read your post!

And don't be a such a patronsiing cock, either.

My point is this - don't sanctimoniously moralise at others like you have done. I'm sure there're lots of aspects of your life that others might find not 100 per cent morally wonderful.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
oh god, i have expanded upon it. READ MY POST. You credit women with zero intelligence, and you speak about women as though they are objects with no free will of their own.

Waste. Of. Time. Talking. To. You. I genuinely do have better things to do.
 
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matmustard

theta
baboon2004 said:
I'm sure there're lots of aspects of your life that others might find not 100 per cent morally wonderful.
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100% absolutley pathetic. joke. i know you're an intelligent being. what's offended you here?
seriously, i'd like to discuss, now that we've both had a chance to calm down.
i've made my point. i've re-read it, still unsure about yours...
 
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matmustard

theta
matmustard said:
put simply, if one needs to watch paid whores (of any gender) to expand one's sexual experience then one is a miserable fucking lay.
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ok baboon. on reflection, that probably is worth picking up. too broad a comment to make. i stand corrected and you're correct there.
apologies.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
OK, what I had to do didn't turn out to be that much better :p

First off, why is that pathetic? You'll have to qualify that. I think my remark is perhaps a whole 'nother (long) conversation, but it's a critical one when someone is moralising to other people, especially when all the parties who are talking to each other know nothing at all about each other. If you don't think you were moralising, fine, but you'll have to explain how you think you weren't.

Point-by-point response to your original post upcoming!
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
matmustard said:
ok baboon. on reflection, that probably is worth picking up. too broad a comment to make. i stand corrected and you're correct there.
apologies.
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yeah, I'm sorry too, went off at the deep end there. Thing is, I know nothing about you, and my venom was more directed at moralising in general (which I don't like too much), and not at you personally.
 
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matmustard

theta
baboon2004 said:
Re-read your post!

And don't be a such a patronsiing cock, either.

My point is this - don't sanctimoniously moralise at others like you have done. I'm sure there're lots of aspects of your life that others might find not 100 per cent morally wonderful.
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patronising? hmm, not my intention. you got my back up, for sure. thing we just had a little scrap, which is fine in my book if we can now move on?
after fights at school we used to share a spliff at the bus stop, don't know how to manage this over the internet?
i respect your opinion and moreso your passion to back it up. of course the most stupid thing is i doubt we have very differing opinions. my hand's there to shake if you want it, just watch out for the left hook ;)
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
The example you gave is indeed horrendous (the German girl). But, firstly:

(1) Is all porn like that, and, morevoer does it have to be?
(2) Assuming that women in the porn industry are all malleable dolls, as many do (note, I'm not saying this is precisely what you were saying, but you didn't seem to give the women any agency in what you originally posted), is not an assumption I at all agree with.
(3) The women I've had proper relationships with have all watched porn to some extent. Definitely not as much as men, true, but I think men often 'defend' women on issues like this while not taking into account women's views (obviously this gets very complex). I realise that I've totally been doing this too, and men talking on behalf of women is not ideal (actually, I'm not sure if any women have posted here, so may be totally wrong on this score!).

Oh, I'm sure I had more points. But I'll post this anyways.
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
matmustard said:
patronising? hmm, not my intention. you got my back up, for sure. thing we just had a little scrap, which is fine in my book if we can now move on?
after fights at school we used to share a spliff at the bus stop, don't know how to manage this over the internet?
i respect your opinion and moreso your passion to back it up. of course the most stupid thing is i doubt we have very differing opinions. my hand's there to shake if you want it, just watch out for the left hook ;)
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ha!

Yeah, you're right on the irony - I'm sure we do think much the same on this.
 
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martin

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Problem with walking on this thread on page 2 and catching a pure porn argument, I thought owl and lark had just become slang words for some sort of sexual deviancy.

ie - "Get away from my kids, you filthy, fucking OWL"
"Yes sir, we do all services, but no anal - and certainly NO lark play"
 
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STN

sou'wester
I am a lark as it goes. An infuriatingly early riser.

I am very fond of owls though (the birds, not you lot) and am wearing a t-shirt with a picture of one on it now.
 
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