slowtrain
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I guess a fundamental problem with the way in which glitch in the sense yr discussing has kind of 'petered out' sotospeak, is that it is very medium dependent, so it becomes kind of limiting in a way, to do new things...
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I guess a fundamental problem with the way in which glitch in the sense yr discussing has kind of 'petered out' sotospeak, is that it is very medium dependent, so it becomes kind of limiting in a way, to do new things...
i wouldn't mind this. or at least a remix album with the MP roster.
i wouldn't mind this. or at least a remix album with the MP roster.
connect_icut
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What do you mean by "medium dependent", exactly? Can you expand on this?
Last week I was at the Oval+Zeitrkratzer concert I mentioned above. First Popp played solo, then he played together with Zeitkratzer tracks from the upcoming album and then there was a part with Zeitkratzer playing 4 compositions of their own.
The Oval bits consisted mostly of sampled acoustic instruments, lots of plucked strings and drums. If I understood him right he played all of these instruments himself, he actually mentioned that he spend a good amount of the last 9 years practicing. The samples were cut up which resulted in clearly audible clicks, but not really old-school Oval glitchiness. For me the parts where he brought out the shimmering overtones of the string instruments worked best but there were also moments that didn't grab me much.
The part together with Zeitkratzer was my favourite, I had to think of something like No Neck Blues band if they were from eastern europe. Overall a nice concert, but I'm not sure if I need that on record.
The Oval bits consisted mostly of sampled acoustic instruments, lots of plucked strings and drums. If I understood him right he played all of these instruments himself, he actually mentioned that he spend a good amount of the last 9 years practicing. The samples were cut up which resulted in clearly audible clicks, but not really old-school Oval glitchiness. For me the parts where he brought out the shimmering overtones of the string instruments worked best but there were also moments that didn't grab me much.
The part together with Zeitkratzer was my favourite, I had to think of something like No Neck Blues band if they were from eastern europe. Overall a nice concert, but I'm not sure if I need that on record.
connect_icut
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Think I read that all of his "live" instrument parts are sourced from commercially available VST plug-in presets. Could be wrong.
Sadly, I still haven't heard any of the new material.
Sadly, I still haven't heard any of the new material.
slowtrain
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Well, isn't glitch worked based on making CD's and other sorts of recording devices, electronics malfunction? I just mean that you need to already have something to make glitch.... I may be wrong though
FUCK YEAH.
if you are not familiar it is commercially unavailable but waters link in my sig...
Yes mate. I think I checked that one out. Actually it's sonically very mild compared to some of the frankly calamitous computer music he was playing at stoopid volume at the Spectrum concerts in London last year. Like universes tearing apart. There was a merch table, and actually they were selling that one above so it might be available, but I couldn't quite work out what the pure computer stuff was. You could hear it was primitive digital processes being abused - like cheap and extreme time-stretching and pitch shifting. Wicked stuff.
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The thing with the instrumental music is it's quite funny (as in haha) to watch. It's all this abstract sound but then you've got these brightly lit musicians doing really quite silly things with their bassoons and things. Tends to diminish the sense of gravitas somewhat I found. Still good though, not like much else. I think having the process so transparent is part of the thinking behind it anyway.
Dumitrescu was being a proper composer - having a go at a musician (Tim Hodgkinson - "I am playing it man!") and abandoning the piece (actually, leaving the building) when he felt it wasn't being played right. Other musicians walked off at one point as well. Drama! He was pretty pissed about something to do with one of the venues not allowing enough volume or something as well.
The computer music though, I thought it was pretty startling.
Dumitrescu was being a proper composer - having a go at a musician (Tim Hodgkinson - "I am playing it man!") and abandoning the piece (actually, leaving the building) when he felt it wasn't being played right. Other musicians walked off at one point as well. Drama! He was pretty pissed about something to do with one of the venues not allowing enough volume or something as well.
The computer music though, I thought it was pretty startling.
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nochexxx
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XLR8R have just released a free download from the upcoming record.
interesting enough but i'm not sure about it tbh. not feeling the phat beat ground against busy granular shluurps and glitchs. a bit disposable, and not far from later period / wrong Mouse On Mars imo. i sure hope this is the weakest track! sorry to be a hater
interesting enough but i'm not sure about it tbh. not feeling the phat beat ground against busy granular shluurps and glitchs. a bit disposable, and not far from later period / wrong Mouse On Mars imo. i sure hope this is the weakest track! sorry to be a hater
connect_icut
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XLR8R have just released a free download from the upcoming record.
interesting enough but i'm not sure about it tbh. not feeling the phat beat ground against busy granular shluurps and glitchs. a bit disposable, and not far from later period / wrong Mouse On Mars imo. i sure hope this is the weakest track! sorry to be a hater
I like it! But it does sound a lot like Mouse on Mars and it seems like he's really going out of his way to be accessible. I do hope there's some more abstract/challenging stuff to come. This is nice but it seems a little "lite".
why can't he just make another 10 volumes of systemisch.
wouldn't it be great: not only for me to have all these functional and efficient sound patterns (no M word) at my disposal,
but the idea of "zero progression" as an artist.
that would be really interesting, a pretty amazing concept and project, and also fit with his whole schtick (which i guess he's out grown) --
the "i am not a Musician" and "the system makes the work", etc.
if that was entirely true (which of course it isn't, not even for one minute)
then forget this "next work has to advance from the previous" idea, and this pop appeal nonsense.
i mean, as long as the conceptual art and system Music myth, that the artist's subjectivity is not involved in its actual creation, is useful to those who believe it, mostly the artist him/her self, in creating quality works, then i see no harm in it, and they should just do it like that: BECOME THE MACHINE.
wouldn't it be great: not only for me to have all these functional and efficient sound patterns (no M word) at my disposal,
but the idea of "zero progression" as an artist.
that would be really interesting, a pretty amazing concept and project, and also fit with his whole schtick (which i guess he's out grown) --
the "i am not a Musician" and "the system makes the work", etc.
if that was entirely true (which of course it isn't, not even for one minute)
then forget this "next work has to advance from the previous" idea, and this pop appeal nonsense.
i mean, as long as the conceptual art and system Music myth, that the artist's subjectivity is not involved in its actual creation, is useful to those who believe it, mostly the artist him/her self, in creating quality works, then i see no harm in it, and they should just do it like that: BECOME THE MACHINE.
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