BNP support NOT linked to immigration

scottdisco

rip this joint please
Oona King's married to some Italian chap, i saw a programme once on her love of Italian food, it was essentially pornographic, lovely stuff.
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
It's not everyday Nick Griffin writes to me begging for cash, but that's exactly what he's done. This morning thousands of BNP leaflets polluted Stokie letter boxes with their usual mix of lies and hate.

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sufi

lala
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information is beautiful
 

hucks

Your Message Here
You stay in and watch footy?

That'll show em.

Re that map - not sure how useful the 2001 census is on this. Populations have changed quite a bit. Barking, for instance, is much more ethnically mixed in 2010 than it was in 2001.
 

crackerjack

Well-known member
council blah


Councillor Helal Abbas, Leader of the Council commented, “I want to ask all sections of our diverse and vibrant community to hold their nerve but be vigilant in the face of this blatant attempt at division along crude racial and religious lines. There is no place for extremism of any description in Tower Hamlets.

We are a strong community with so much to be proud of. As leader I will do everything in my power to ensure our community stays safe and secure using all the resources and influence at my disposal.“

Whilst the Troxy is a commercial company they must comply with the law and have regard to the impact such an event will have on social cohesion in Tower Hamlets. The Council has encouraged the Troxy to sign up to the 'No Place for Hate' campaign and indeed they were happy to do so. To date over 700 people and 70 organisations have signed our 'No Place for Hate' pledge.

Councillor Josh Peck, Deputy Leader of the Council commented, “This conference is not supported in any way by the council and we call upon the Troxy to call off this conference in the interests of public safety and social cohesion. The views attributed to some of the speakers is completely at odds with our continuing work in building One Tower Hamlets. If necessary we will review our working relationship with the Troxy.”



Councillor Helal Abbas continues, “I will be asking the Police to explore all avenues open to them to ensure both the conference and the EDL demonstration do not take place in Tower Hamlets. Neither is representative of Tower Hamlets and will cause great distress to the people of the borough. If you feel threatened or unsafe please contact the Police directly or you can contact my office using the details below.”

The Council will continue to work with the Police, the Interfaith Forum and other local partners. We have all worked hard through the Tower Hamlets partnership to ensure a harmonious and cohesive community behind the banner of One Tower Hamlets. This has had some success and is borne out from the findings of our recent residents' survey. We will not accept attempts to divide our communities.
 

Dusty

Tone deaf
Would have been easier if they had just said they were banning him for being a fat annoying cunt. Then you sidestep the whole political issue.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Would have been easier if they had just said they were banning him for being a fat annoying cunt. Then you sidestep the whole political issue.

In fairness that'd mean quite a lot of MPs from all parties would be unable to attend.
 

STN

sou'wester
Haven't seen the clip yet, but apparently The Tatch confronted him in person and called him a gutless coward outside the BBC's offices yesterday.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Awesome. Tatchell does talk rubbish sometimes but anyone who squares up to both Robert Mugabe and Nick Griffin is a dude in my book.
 

rubberdingyrapids

Well-known member
anyone know of a good recent ish survey on peoples attitudes to immigration to the uk? i am quite positive that 95% of all british residents would prefer if there was no migration to these shores, full stop. and that cuts across class. even people that read the guardian and make all the right noises, i think deep down in their unconscious they hate it too. or maybe im just more conscious of cos were living in grimmer times. though not sure there has ever been a golden age for warmth towards migrants. or maybe this is just my own unconscious speaking after my night out last night and talking to a group of friends who have emigrated here in the last 5 years.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
I dunno, I reckon if "95%"* of people felt that strongly about it then we'd have a UKIP/BNP coalition govt instead of a Con/Lib one. The economic argument in favour of immigration is pretty much cast-iron and I suspect a lot of people know this. OTOH the UK, and especially England, is undeniably a small and already very crowded country, and a rapidly growing population is increasing competition for housing and all sorts of basic resources and services. Yes that competition could be greatly reduced with a fairer distribution of land and resources but, at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, this doesn't look a likely prospect in the near future.

*Of course far more than 5% of the UK's population is made up of immigrants and the descendants of recent immigrants but established immigrants are often quite hostile to further immigration because it means an influx of people who are then going to compete with them economically.
 

rubberdingyrapids

Well-known member
im saying that begrudging tolerance isnt all that special as far as host receptions go (not that i expect some sort of warm hearted endorsement, and obv saying all immigration is all positive is equally nullifying) but iirc, less than 10% of the national population is non-english/migrant/descendants of migrants. its only in london where the numbers are much more equal, and possibly some of the other cities like manchester and brum.

*Of course far more than 5% of the UK's population is made up of immigrants and the descendants of recent immigrants but established immigrants are often quite hostile to further immigration because it means an influx of people who are then going to compete with them economically.

sure. but a lot of them also dont like newcomers because they remind of them of their previous newcomer status. its also an absorption of the larger culture's feelings around new migrants.
 
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Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
iirc, less than 10% of the national population is non-english/migrant/descendants of migrants. its only in london where the numbers are much more equal, and possibly some of the other cities like manchester and brum.

I think that's a bit conservative. Three years ago more than 11% of the population was born outside the UK, so that doesn't even include 2nd/3rd/4th-generation immigrants, and probably doesn't include people staying here illegally, who are thought to make up a further half a million or more.

There are quite a lot of places in Britain where most people aren't white British.

sure. but a lot of them also dont like newcomers because they remind of them of their previous newcomer status. its also an absorption of the larger culture's feelings around new migrants.

There's also significant friction and prejudice between minority groups that a lot of white people don't realize goes on. Antagonism between blacks and Asians in a lot of cities in the north and Midlands, anti-Semitism among people from Muslim communities, prejudice against non-whites among East Europeans...
 
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crackerjack

Well-known member
i am quite positive that 95% of all british residents would prefer if there was no migration to these shores, full stop. and that cuts across class.

I'd guess that figure is wildly exaggerated, probably doubled, possibly more, but I can't claim to have any numbers to hand. Presumably there's a lot of polling on this somewhere... and you could have a look around British Future. Their director Sunder Katwala is pretty active and responsive on Twitter too.
 
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