wot childrens books still haunt your imagination

[luka]

Alright I've made some coffee. I'm having some of the same difficulties in that I'm finding it hard to concentrate for a sustained period. But what you can use dissensus to do, ideally, is to lock on, and feel that switch into focussed awareness and engagement, where the mind starts generating thought, and remembering what it already knows but had lost in the archives.

 

[luka]

And in doing so you reconnect with a larger self, in a kind of docking procedure.

 

[catalog]

i thought docking was something else but nvm. yeah, i've got a million things going through my mind atm, some of them personal / work-related, so don't really wanna go into them in great detail (ut could do i spose). i think it's the strong autumn sun and the fact i'm doing regular walks. loads of paintings all over the studio. lots of dissensus activity. swimming outdoors. that mushroom juice.

 

[luka]

You don't need to talk about your personal life, we just want to engineer this shift in the level of engagement. To knock you (and hopefully me) from this scatty, dispersed, fractured energy, desperate seeking stimulus, to something more satisfying and intergrated.

 

[Mr. Tea]

i thought docking was something else but nvm.

 

[catalog]

yes ithink posting in just one thread is a good idea to start with - i'll stop with all the others. i just like going all city occasionally. to see your name everyhwere

 

[luka]

So we are going to perform a dual docking procedure, first to the larger vessel of ourself and secondly, to the larger vessel of the group mind, the mothership

 

[catalog]

tea this is serious no bants but yes thankyou

 

[catalog]

yes that sounds good luke lets do it

 

[luka]

And obviously we all act out of spite and irritability and frustration but you want to keep a basic ethic of serious engagement. Do I understand what has been said and can I add something useful? Is my comment adding something worthwhile to this thread, building on what's already there, or is it defacing it? Have I taken the trouble to actually read what has been written?

It's difficult at the moment cos we can't understand the Americans at all. They're from another planet and we feel threatened and therefore hostile.

 

[luka]

You want to be able to take yourself seriously enough to believe what you have to say is of value and is worth saying.

 

[catalog]

ok, so no flippancy, that's what your saying yes? also not negging on others yes?

 

[catalog]

i do like the energy of the young americans, im going to stop bullying them from now on

 

[luka]

And that very mode of engagement, and trying to conform to that ethic is what can, hopefully, cause that shift in our own state of consciousness, into something which is more grounded and more expansive and less flitty and anxious.

 

[luka]

And it becomes a more satisfying experience for everybody because what they are reading, what they are allowing entry through the eye, is of value, is meant seriously and passionately, is not just junk skimmed from the surface froth of consciousness.

 

[catalog]

ok yes, agreed.

 

[luka]

There's no distraction from distraction. The only escape is engagement at the limits of our ability. Actually bringing to bear the full scope of our powers, intellectual, emotional and imaginative.

 

[Corpsey]

I had an interesting experience last night playing Skyrim which will be difficult to articulate here.

I looked up at the stars and noted how pretty they looked, and took a photo of it.



Then I thought to myself 'that's not good enough, you're just doing what tourists do in foreign cities - take a picture and move along'. So then I angled the camera up again and consciously exerted my imagination, and that revealed to me that Skyrim is IN SPACE, like our planet. It's in a universe, it could be in OUR universe.

Hard to articulate the sense of childlike wonder and satisfaction this gave me – it reminded me of how limitless and infinite the world seemed as a child, including my imaginary ideas about it, as opposed to the limited, death-nullified world I occupy as an adult.

Later on, coincidentally, I was reading 'Art and Illusion' by Gombrich and he writes that the Greeks said that to marvel is the beginning of knowledge and where we cease to marvel we may be in danger of ceasing to know.

 

[catalog]

I think padraig was saying this (in relation to your gombrich comment).

That the psychedelic exists in the area between the known and unknown? And the internet is now gobbling up the unknown, wrenching it from us?

So there's no space for wonder, you get paralysed.

May have got it wrong a bit.... or added some of my own...

A few years ago at a festival, I remember seeing signs in the crew area about not taking photos of the setups, there was one about 'keep it magic' or something like that.

 

[luka]

That's what I'm asking we do here, keep it magic. Betwixt the in-between of is and might have been.